LUCIUS BANDA SENTENCED

President · Veteran Member

LUCIUS BANDA SENTENCED

awmygawd · Guru

Ouch!

Mulopwana · Veteran Member

It was not necessary because the guy can write and speak english. He did that because Bingu promised him ministerial post. Some people who are important to the society like Lucius and Yusuf Mwawa should be given suspended sentences. Muno moyenda ife tikumamvera Lucius Banda nde akumpititsanso ku ndende. Ndale ku Malawi sizikuyenda bwino.

abre les ojos · Guru

Okay what did he do...

Temwachi · Newbie

At least this shows there is still rule of law in malawi. I was beginning to think we were fast losing it. The law that is impartial.

Mboba · Member

He deserves to be hanged!

awmygawd · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

Okay what did he do...

He forged an MSCE certificate to make himself eligible for parliamentary candidacy. I think.

abre les ojos · Guru

That's it? And he gets almost 2 years for it?

Mean · Newbie

Trust me, there are thousands of people out there in Malawi who have commited worse crimes and get away with it because they are on the good side of the government.

The only crime that Lucius Banda commited is to introduce the bill for Bingu's impeachement.

Kasambara's initial work of hatred politics is still taking its toll even though he is out of the picture.

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Listen to Lucius Bandas song "yellow" on Malawiana.net and you will but no help to be amazed of how things have changed ever since.

-- Edited by Mean at 23:18, 2006-08-31

firstbendman · Senior Member

May be its a callous punishment, but am sure he deserve it. The first time this guy came on the spotlight, he was the mouth of the voiceless. He exposed government wrong doing and corrupt politician through his music. Unfortunately, due to devoid of strength of character, principals or moral fiber, Lucius decided to abandon the voiceless and join the bandwagon of crooked politicians. The ‘Yellow’ song is in praise of UDF and Bakili. Who in rightful mind will praise this combo?

We are trying to fight corruption (our main problem), and locking this guy will send a message to these politician. If Lucius did not do well on his MSCE, he wasn’t gonna perform miracles in parliament. He denied somebody a chance to represent the voiceless in parliament.

And am not a fanatic of Bingu either. He has dishonored the constitution so many times already. (which he is supposed to defend). Lucius did fine to move the impeachment motion, because we wouldn’t know about this qualifications. Its like the snake which swallowed its own tail.

But the government shouldn’t lock corrupters from the opposition only, because its gonna look like witch-hunting - Mr Mwawa alone is not good enough.

awmygawd · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

That's it? And he gets almost 2 years for it?

If you consider that he actually made MP (by deceit), & that as MP he almost pushed through a presidential impeachment, I'd say the sentence could have been much worse.

awmygawd · Guru

Mean, To say that his only crime was to introduce the bill for impeachment, and that the sentence is therefore undeserved trivialises the seriousness of this 'crime'. Don't you think a successful presidential impeachment triggered by an unauthorised individual is effectively illegal regime change (sort of like a bloodless coup d'état)?

-- Edited by awmygawd at 11:42, 2006-09-01

game · Guru

awmygawd wrote:

Mean, To say that his only crime was to introduce the bill for impeachment, and that the sentence is therefore undeserved trivialises the seriousness of this 'crime'. Don't you think a successful presidential impeachment triggered by an unauthorised individual is effectively illegal regime change (sort of like a bloodless coup d'état)?

-- Edited by awmygawd at 11:42, 2006-09-01

he is a freedom fighter,a revolutionary,he had to fight the government from inside,his only problem was to be a stupid advocate,how can you use the UDF to execute a plan like that?you need means that will convince people you are for real,and the coup would have worked if he just came out clean without going in politics.Bingu is an inept politictian,he came with a bang and people thought he was a messiah politictian what did they get?some incompetent business man muddling our human rights by oppressing the media,arresting opponents in the name of corruption.i tell you Lucius deserved the punishment but he will be out sooner than you think,i will make it happen.FREE LUCIUS AND ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS.

Ngwazi · Guru

Mean wrote:

Trust me, there are thousands of people out there in Malawi who have commited worse crimes and get away with it because they are on the good side of the government.

The only crime that Lucius Banda commited is to introduce the bill for Bingu's impeachement.

Kasambara's initial work of hatred politics is still taking its toll even though he is out of the picture.

Mean,

I agree,actually we have seven MPs on the government side and some of them holding Ministerial positions and they all committed the same crime as Lucious Banda.The whole issue is about punishing Lucious for moving that motion.

We should condemn this selective punishment but agree that forgery is a crime and If I were Khumbo Kachali,Anna Kachikho,Rashid Gaffar,Roy Coomsy(all Ministers!) I would very worried indeed because a precedence has been set,Lucious Bandas conviction will act as a referral case to all future prosecutions and when the law finally caughts up with those being protected by Bingu today,they should expect the same sentence.

abuhakim · Senior Member

Political persecution, be it as it may but the guy deserves some jail time even though the sentence is a bit unsympathetic. They could have put him away for about a year, just to set a good example to the young fellaz out there and some folks with fake certificates in the very same parliament. Ooups! I did it again. And for Chibade lock him away and throw away the keys! He is a bad influence in the society.

PLEASE tell Abre Les ojos what Lucius did he is craving to know!

-- Edited by abuhakim at 17:16, 2006-09-01

guevara · Senior Member

President wrote:

LUCIUS BANDA HAS BEEN SENTENCED TO 21 MONTHS IHL TODAY. !!!!

FAIR PLAY

guevara · Senior Member

game wrote:

awmygawd wrote:

Mean, To say that his only crime was to introduce the bill for impeachment, and that the sentence is therefore undeserved trivialises the seriousness of this 'crime'. Don't you think a successful presidential impeachment triggered by an unauthorised individual is effectively illegal regime change (sort of like a bloodless coup d'état)?

-- Edited by awmygawd at 11:42, 2006-09-01

he is a freedom fighter,a revolutionary,he had to fight the government from inside,his only problem was to be a stupid advocate,how can you use the UDF to execute a plan like that?you need means that will convince people you are for real,and the coup would have worked if he just came out clean without going in politics.Bingu is an inept politictian,he came with a bang and people thought he was a messiah politictian what did they get?some incompetent business man muddling our human rights by oppressing the media,arresting opponents in the name of corruption.i tell you Lucius deserved the punishment but he will be out sooner than you think,i will make it happen.FREE LUCIUS AND ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS.

Used to be some sort of freedom fighter,never been a revolutionary!greedy,cheat and coniving bastard,would best describe him.good musician though

he will have a lot of time to reflect and re-invent himself just like Archer

game · Guru

iwe guevara,

the clit revolutionised music in malawi,he is only human thats why he made that stupid mistake,guevara was a revolutionary but he had a side to him that was smelly and evil in the eyes of those at the other end of the gun.remember what the fear of man does to human race.

guevara · Senior Member

game wrote:

iwe guevara,

the clit revolutionised music in malawi,he is only human thats why he made that stupid mistake,guevara was a revolutionary but he had a side to him that was smelly and evil in the eyes of those at the other end of the gun.remember what the fear of man does to human race.

Are you justifying fraud sir?

game · Guru

nada,am not justifying fraud cowboy,but like Ngwazi said,selective punishement has to be condemned,but how do you condemn it without people thinking you are trying to justify fraudulent activities?

sepusepu · Senior Member

Indeed they are many people that have commited all kinds of fraud. Lucius Banda put pressure on the Government and unfortunately if you oppose most govts will have to rataliate. He basically introduced himself as a vulnerable target by not having his stuff straight.

Its just like all these debates that happen on this forum. If someone try to crash your facts we try to fight back. Its a way of life.

If any members of this forum want to go against a governing body make sure you get you stuff straight otherwise you will be squashed like a bug.

abre les ojos · Guru

A governments job - particularly one that claims to be a democracy, is not to revenge or selectively prosecute dissenters. The government is an institution and not a person so cannot be judged or should not act with the same morality.

awmygawd · Guru

sepusepu wrote:

Indeed they are many people that have commited all kinds of fraud. Lucius Banda put pressure on the Government and unfortunately if you oppose most govts will have to rataliate. He basically introduced himself as a vulnerable target by not having his stuff straight.

True (unfortunately). Remember that saying about stones and glass houses?

Pope · Guru

How many of you guys have got a forged certificate of any kind,or a driving licence,or just a birth certificate or origin?

If none then Lucius is wrong,and for the punishment I wish he have an option of fine.

Kwacha · Newbie

Mayo ine, ndi a MP a kumudzi kwa amuna anga!!!!!!!!!!!