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KUMALAWI SIKUMUDZI KUMUDZI KOMWE MUMAGANIZA.....


Abres and Game ++, listen! Of course by this point in your acclaimed successful lives in England you might think and be convinced that you know why Malawi languishes today , poverty , diseases,corruption, unemployemnt and you name it . But hey! You're too wrong and far from the reality of knowledge , and I strongly challenge your conventional wisdom that Malawi hasn't been home for democratic principles and where a country gives all her wards everything that they ask for(define democracy yourself) : Do you want Malawi to encampass American or British democracy? !!) . Malawians under Dr Banda were dictatorial in nature? Do you wannna say under Dr Muluzi corruption is the source of all misery in this country? That contention, I bet on you does not withstand practical experience or serious scrutiny of what is actually on the ground. Our country's problem is not politics (define politics in its context)but simple viral misfortune contracted from the western world(say no if you can!).


Similary I agree with some of you guys that the only principle route out of the poverty that we experience in Malawi is simply hard work. However, building that route does not require only the harnessing of the unique power of governemnts , employers and workers but its a global duty, workin together.Azunguwa ndi pake aluya anatopa nawo and I appreciate what aluay amapanga ....


Look , Malawis soil today of course produces less food due to unfair, World Bank, IMF and EU Agricultural Policies( dont say fweeee!!) and also Malawi like the whole continent suffers disproportionately from debilitating diseases like HIV/AIDS brought about by azungus and malaria which has been deliberately not completely wiped out. Much of Malawis population is concentrated within rural areas, and this, combined with its lack of good roads and navigable rivers, hampers trade and social-economic growth. Honestly, you might imply that Malawis governance is poor, but this is simply because Malawi is poor. What do you think?Azungu anatiphunzitsa chizungu komaso ndikulembaso constitution yathu mchizungu confusing a common man.What is english anyway???!!


Inuyo achina Abres and Game you are what I maight call ....eh achina ......coz you **** even sense which way the world is translating itself. Mukanakhal mukupanga sukulu yaukachechende kapena tinene kuti yomasula mitu bwenzi sukuluyo yakunjayo changed you and ed at life from a different perspective. The truth is we Malawians want western countries but them dont want us .Who are you Abres in the face of an Englishman ....???? a black hairly educated monkey in specks !!!!


Komabe I forsee the end of extreme poverty being at hand and within our generation(maybe not yours anthu a chizungu).Kwa aMalawi worth their salts the 21st century is seen as the great opportunity of our time, a commitment that would not only relieve massive suffering and spread economic well-being, but would also promote other enlightenment objectives of democracy, global security, and the advancement of science.


A bres and Game you are the most plastic faceless imps I have ever come across on this forum.Dissing your own country???. Inu ndaayani kumangalande kodi ? You are the most culturally decoloured blacks with tatoos on their a......armpits. I dont appreciate you pipo who don't share the utopian vision, lamenting the "anti-African and antipoor attitudes" of skeptics. You are so dead visionless such that you cant even imagine that Malawi today , has a bad rap as poor even when such sentiments are not authentic enough , but they survive in our societies as conventional wisdom because of existing widespread propaganda and defeat.


Dont you ever think that ending Malawian poverty is a worthy aspiration???? It is also an old ideal, a shoal on which many buoyant ideologies--liberalism, communism, pan-Africanism--have run aground. for it.



 


 



 


 


 



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I think you are being a little unfair to me and Game. I mean, you don't know me so you might be being a little presumptious about me.


What has Malawi ever done for me? I'm speaking from personal experience. Apart from the fact that the old Banda government tried to assasinate my family and me as a one month old child. Not that I blame Malawi the nation for it. But back in Malawi I lived a miserable existence. Ever since I moved back to this country as a young adult life has improved a million-fold.


Now I can only speak through personal experience. I hate poverty. I don't want to be poor. So I would naturally go to a place where the chances of me being successful are better. For me and my offspring! Who cares about democracy. People don't eat democracy. Poverty is a malaise.


I resent your assessment that we are not wanted here. I work for the British Government doing a job that few people are trained to do and possess certain skills that are in short supply. Like nurses etc.


You can hate me for my cynicism but thge truth is my experience with Africa (and I have been everywhere in Africa) is not a good one.


There's no such thing as a utopia...



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oh my!!


it looks like someone has gone through a process of evolution,to be honest am impressed but i think you still have to let go of your serious character flaw,for once i feel like i can have a constructive and meaningful debate with you and learn something in the process just stop name calling.your piece is well constructed though contradictory,but not weak.


let me tell you one thing nyasa,i love my country,am patriotic to the bone and will always want the best for malawi.what i dont like about malawi is the political turmoil which has resulted in mass unemployment,mass migration into rich countries for greener pastures although they say its not always greener on the other side.


malawi is one of the countries of the world where the rich and the poor are not united by a common way of life,look at the social and political tension that has engulfed the country since it emerged.you have to be so naive not to see the big gap between the poor and the rich,young people are often left out in making government policies ie;youth policies that can help young people become entrepreneurs.if you come to england you find these policies at your fingertips so why not give it a shot.


 



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I know. It's almost as if it's a different Nyasaland huh? After being a jerk for so long. At least now we can hold proper debates.

You know there might be a God after all...

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KUMALAWI SIKUMUDZI KUMUDZI KOMWE MUMAGANIZA..... Abres and Game ++, listen! Of course by this point in your acclaimed successful lives in England you might think and be convinced that you know why Malawi languishes today , poverty , diseases,corruption, unemployemnt and you name it . But hey! You're too wrong and far from the reality of knowledge , and I strongly challenge your conventional wisdom that Malawi hasn't been home for democratic principles and where a country gives all her wards everything that they ask for(define democracy yourself) : Do you want Malawi to encampass American or British democracy? !!) . Malawians under Dr Banda were dictatorial in nature? Do you wannna say under Dr Muluzi corruption is the source of all misery in this country? That contention, I bet on you does not withstand practical experience or serious scrutiny of what is actually on the ground. Our country's problem is not politics (define politics in its context)but simple viral misfortune contracted from the western world(say no if you can!). Similary I agree with some of you guys that the only principle route out of the poverty that we experience in Malawi is simply hard work. However, building that route does not require only the harnessing of the unique power of governemnts , employers and workers but its a global duty, workin together.Azunguwa ndi pake aluya anatopa nawo and I appreciate what aluay amapanga .... Look , Malawis soil today of course produces less food due to unfair, World Bank, IMF and EU Agricultural Policies( dont say fweeee!!) and also Malawi like the whole continent suffers disproportionately from debilitating diseases like HIV/AIDS brought about by azungus and malaria which has been deliberately not completely wiped out. Much of Malawis population is concentrated within rural areas, and this, combined with its lack of good roads and navigable rivers, hampers trade and social-economic growth. Honestly, you might imply that Malawis governance is poor, but this is simply because Malawi is poor. What do you think?Azungu anatiphunzitsa chizungu komaso ndikulembaso constitution yathu mchizungu confusing a common man.What is english anyway???!! Inuyo achina Abres and Game you are what I maight call ....eh achina ......coz you **** even sense which way the world is translating itself. Mukanakhal mukupanga sukulu yaukachechende kapena tinene kuti yomasula mitu bwenzi sukuluyo yakunjayo changed you and ed at life from a different perspective. The truth is we Malawians want western countries but them dont want us .Who are you Abres in the face of an Englishman ....???? a black hairly educated monkey in specks !!!! Komabe I forsee the end of extreme poverty being at hand and within our generation(maybe not yours anthu a chizungu).Kwa aMalawi worth their salts the 21st century is seen as the great opportunity of our time, a commitment that would not only relieve massive suffering and spread economic well-being, but would also promote other enlightenment objectives of democracy, global security, and the advancement of science. A bres and Game you are the most plastic faceless imps I have ever come across on this forum.Dissing your own country???. Inu ndaayani kumangalande kodi ? You are the most culturally decoloured blacks with tatoos on their a......armpits. I dont appreciate you pipo who don't share the utopian vision, lamenting the "anti-African and antipoor attitudes" of skeptics. You are so dead visionless such that you cant even imagine that Malawi today , has a bad rap as poor even when such sentiments are not authentic enough , but they survive in our societies as conventional wisdom because of existing widespread propaganda and defeat. Dont you ever think that ending Malawian poverty is a worthy aspiration???? It is also an old ideal, a shoal on which many buoyant ideologies--liberalism, communism, pan-Africanism--have run aground. for it.          


amwene nde mwalemba momveka koma mukuoneka kuti mwangokhala ndibvuto with anthu amene ali kunja.it makes me think you should be jealous


yes you can qoute all those thinkers as you have done i have no rpblem with that. vuto langa ndiloti if you`ve been lucky to make ends meet in malawi stick it in your arse and live its your choice. people come to europe or  america for different reasons. i dont know if you`ve ever considered what could have happened if some of us were still in malawi jobless with nobody to take care of us and find work for us. what could you have been saying if we came to your house and hammer some sense in your head and take some of your belongings and go scot free romancing your wife and daghters ets even if you you know us or even the police know our history. thus the **** these guys are talkin about and that **** is hapenning bro


amwene kumalawi ndikwathu and we are proud of our beautifull country. we live hear its not our home, its not a place to come and relax. we came to make money if you think we are meant to work for leisure then you want to tell me someone coming all the way to england sit on his arse and enjoy the cold weather you must be joking. its money all the way. its do the **** job  harder and live it back home. now thus cool love it or loathe it buddy.


we are proud to be malawians thus why we come and live here pure malawians have you ever heard of other africans trying hard to get our passports(zimbabwe.nigeria,tanzania..you tell me)? now you want us not to say it that corruptin is high to the level that we are prepared to sell there country for mere 20 bloody qiud. after all how many of can get jobs for MRA,IMMIGRATION,NIB,TRAFFICK POLICE,BANKS PRESS,SUCOMA EVEN WORLD VISION nowadays you need connection olo kujiyira mamibus amafuna laini mkulu apo bi jwangali style.


yes sometimes abres go over the top some of us who might have been in the same scenario he has been into may understand him its not that he is not proud malawian it might be combination of alot of things that happenned to us as being offsprings of fighters who couldn`t stand and see the sufferings of folks at the hands of their compatriots.thus why heis combative debator its in our bloodbut at the end of the day he is a malawian and every year as he says he rushes back to see the backside of his folks


chilungamo chake ndi choti amalawife ndife



  1. ansanje

  2. aulesi

  3. amabodza

  4. atsankho

  5. ozikonda

  6. akuba

  7. opempha

  8. amphawi

  9. afiti

and the list goes on.


and to abres there is power that urges you to ask 4 lords assistance


 



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I hear you. But my request for assistance from the "Lord" was a sarcastic one.

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to be honest some working conditions in england are so bad you cant imagin,working with all your balls frozen like a stone would make people like nyasaland hop back on a plane to malawi.but when you look back where you come from gives you the drive to make it big regardless of the predicaments.


many hard working africans are now big entrepreneurs in big cities because of the vastiness of resources to succeed.this country is a peaceful and democratic where all human beings are protected within the same framework of freedom and human rights.people think that wars,hunger,diseases and corruption  in africa are irrational catastrophes,these evils happen when wrong ways of thinking and living brings about intolerable situations.


look at the economic situation in malawi,our wrong living consists primarily in systematically cultivating greed and envy.it is this greed that has delivered some of us willingly though into the hands of former colonialists,if greed were not the master of modern malawian man or african our country and continent would be a bed of rose.there is so much corruption in malawi,nepotism,human rights abuse and all these are facts which are neither denied nor acknowledged but are met with an unbreakable conspiracy of silence.


malawi has many educated fools,from chimphamba,lubadili,the president himself,chilumpha all these fools live in denial and rejection of un upside down society because they do not have the faintest idea what the term poverty means,as a result they tend to cure a disease by intensifying its causes,they allow cleverness to displace wisdom.people like nyasaland cannot see that problem because they are part of it and only if you come out of that box and be in a place like england you can see the solution,but you cant reach the right medium to tackle it because everyone is ignorant.



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I admire the polemics that come out of your convictions - some of which I agree with seeing that we both live in the west and are Malawian too. Plus I think we both have a deep-seated dislike for this Nayasaland character.


No he cannot understand where we're coming from. We can't erase our pasts and don't intend to do so. I agree that he cannot see the problem because he is part of it. Unfortunately, we on the outside see Malawi's problems better and with more clarity. Whether our ideas for solving them are correct is another debate. And I doubt if there is a single solution to them.


I too would be happy to see my roots prosper. I too would be glad to hear good news from Malawi for once. But I'm not that person to make that change. I have resolved to stay away from them and keep away from that country for as long as I can manage.



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