WUD YA???

YTP · Guru

WUD YA???

game · Guru

strap it before you stick it is my advise,people get tested today and have negative results come tomorrow they get positive results its a tricky scenario,i have a thousand latex in the trunk of my car and a thousand more in my crib although i know its a secret ballot man gets weaker at the sight of a womans boobies by the time you reach the ignition you are not in the right state of mind you just stick the key in.

YTP · Guru

& if U were +ve, wud ya inform ur partner even though u were gettin' strapped?

game · Guru

yes ma'am,relationships are based on honesty and trust,communication is a fundamental element to a stronger relationship.

Karma Sutra · Member

I dont even think that should be a question to ask, sorry no offence but unless you know that you already ~**ed,that wuold not even be an option. Only those who dont really know wether they are making things worse or not are the ones that dont care. To all those who know that they are clear,make that a POINT.

Black Panther · Senior Member

1 in every 3rd Malawian has AIDS/HIV.

If you go to a Malawian party today, anywhere and there are a hundred people there, probably 33 of them will have the virus/Aids. If you have a dinner party with 10 Malawians 3 of them will. The question we should be asking is WOULD U SLEEP WITH A MALAWIAN W/O ASKING THEM FOR A TEST.

Like it or not we are dieying, in record numbers....so you like someone you want to hit it, and you sleep with him. You get AIDs or HIV. chances are that it will strain your relationship. NO Mlatter how much u think someon loves you when it comes to AIDS, some people will not supprt you and will walk away from you even though they gave it to you. Would you still think it was worth that sex..was it that good ? the only reason you should not ask is if you think that guys/girls **** is so good that its worth dieying for!

all I can say is that with statistics like this lets not spread the virus like wild fire in our community....If a guy doesnt want to get tested leave. him... ANOTHER BUS WILL COME ALONG - IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE A BUS GOING TO LILONGWE EITHER. Go to CAIRO or GLASGOW, or WHEREVER .. UGANDA even. There are a lot of communities of people that practice safe sex ....you can live with your community , but it doesnt mean that you have to DIE with it.

abre les ojos · Guru

1 in every third Malawian has HIV/AIDS?

That's not true at all. In fact it's actually impossible for any population to survive if 1 out of every 3 has a incurable disease.

Still. More people die from Malaria than AIDS....

The fact is - believe it or not. AIDS in Africa is going down, not up. Latest figures!

You hear these scare stories and false statistics about the level of infection in Africa - usually put forward by the drug companies and the NGOs responsible for controling it. Well, of course they'll say that, they need to to keep the cash flowing in.

As with everything from hunger to disease, Africa is the testing gound whether it be drugs or genetically modified maize from the US...

Let's not exagerate this AIDS thing - practice safe sex, yes. But don't keep living your life in fear that every potential partner is an HIV carrier.

Go out and get a life.

mamacita · Member

Great topic and indeed necessary. But your figures for Malawi are not current. 1 in every 3 -- that is a scare tactic. I still would use it, though it is not correct. As for numbers going down -- unfortunately for Malawi the opposite is true. For other countries like Uganda, yes. But not our beautiful warm heart of Africa.

The issue here is not whether one would or wouldn't or should. It should be about "personal responsibility for self". I love my life and myself so much that unless I know your sexual history...I do NOT care how handsome you are...it is just NOT happening.

Malawi's problem is that we still have to admit that our country is losing labor/man-power because of the endemic. For most people, admitting that a loved one has died of AIDS is a dreaded thought therefore, most people don't. Think of 10 people you know deep down died of AIDS...how many of their loved ones have actually said that that is what he/she died of? Up until we climb this hump, there will NOT be any change of behavior. I hate to put it out here, but while Malawians can and do talk intelligently about HIV/AIDS, there seems to be no change of sexual behaviors. For example: dry sex, unsafe initiation rites, extra-marital relationships, a mindset that says: 'aah! alibe edzi uyo', and worst of all: 'he/she died of blood pressure or diabetes or cancer'.

It's not about whether you would sleep with someone without knowing their tests...it is about loving yourself and yours so much that unless those you deal with are also open about it, you just wont have any dealings with them. BE WILLING TO PUT ALL YOUR CARDS ON THE TABLE. IT'S ABOUT YOUR LIFE!! CAN YOU GAMBLE WITH IT??????

Black Panther · Senior Member

Abre,

okay, okay not 33% that is an estimate I read a few yrs back more currenlty its 15% which is is still high... 15 % though is the REPORTED cases. So it may be true. and you right no nation a can survive like that..but did you notive that people are dieying all around us from back home. we really are not surviving. Whole families have been wiped out by the disease and people still run around chaeting and beein dishonest about the sexuality. Malaria is a huge casue. But alo we need to remember how many of those Malaria suferes may have also had HIV or they died from malaria b/c they have hiv but would have otherwise lived. From CIA fact book.

HIV/AIDS - adult prevalence rate:

14.2% (2003 est.)

HIV/AIDS - people living with HIV/AIDS:

900,000 (2003 est.)

HIV/AIDS - deaths:

84,000 (2003 est.)

(http://www.avert.org/aidsorphans.htm) also 48% of all orphans are AIDS orphans. thats half.

I do disagree with you Abre about the way you should approach partners though, I think you should see every potnetial partner regardless of where they are form as a potential carrier, and then burden of proof should be you deciding if they are not a carrier, viz, via test etc.. You can live your life like that - you will be alive. The same defense tactic is taught to women/girls, "view every male as a potential rapists "- and it does not make us paranoid but careful about our actions .. we're still living normal lives knowing that info.

Mamacita is right, its about loving yourself enough !

megan · Newbie

Its easier said than done. How many men would actually go for a test even if they are madly in love? There was a day I was having a chat with a group of friends and apparently the HIV topic came up I was really shocked to hear from my own -then boyfriend actually stressing that there is no HIV in England. Trust me this guy was serious and he kept on insisting although people started arguing with him. Ndi mbili zake im glad I left him and we used protection! His point was that when you get it while you are in this country you can easily get cured. Somehow I agree with him because there are some people who have been lucky enough and they were treated but my fear is how can one do things carelessly assuming they would get it and then get cured? What im trying to say is there are people who believe that they can mingle around and get tretment later if they are infected. Mind you, those who have been treated and are better are one of lucky ones and I suppose not all of us would be that lucky. Its a shame that the world has turned out to be like this. When God created man he wanted us to enjoy everything but he also gave us the ten commandments to guide us everyday. And thats what all of us forget everyday when we wake up.

sibweni · Senior Member

for your own info, antiretrovirals are viraistats not viralcidal meaning when you are on arv doesnt mean you are cured. arv`s stops the virus from feeding growin and reproducing. kamakhala pa idling once you stop taking medication it will be back in full action in no time thus why treatment is for life and as if its not enough virus is mutating and the mutants are are highly resistant to arvs especially hiv2. inde ya mamember ochulukana melanin.

so no one should think eh yalowa muufa ndipita ku uk sindikaduwa well the message for you is zimenezo nzonama ulendo ulipo cause the same treatment pple get hear is the same pple get back home.

you should really be sorry for your ex and please for your own good go for test cause you sound like ameneyo samauzika wise

on social side personally pple should not go for testing cause its just like signing prenupts. its like ndakukonda koma ngati wapakala sindikukonda.
if you know that one day you will die and stink and rot why not enjoy your life and forget this aids. better be scared of malaria mutu wang`ala and erm!! what about cholera. inde kokusungunula ndi kukutenga changu kusiyana ndi hiv after all you live couple of year before you go

TT · Veteran Member

sad to know that after 20 years pple are still in denial about this aids issue .think its better to get tested first before anything else.see there is actually pple who know they have the virus but they will still do it without a rubber why ? cos they know they ve got nothing to lose .you on the other hand are just getting this life sentence.so i think we need to be more selfish.

just because your partner has tested positive doesnt mean you can not get married ,the test will just help you to look at life differently ,like having sex with protection ,look at what are the preventative measures to take if you decide to have a baby.

i just got married ,like this year and the test was part of the package (we went for the tests even when we were dating )and just cos we are married doesnt mean we can relax.we agreed to do it every six months.that way ,you also look out for each other ,cos the thought of infedility doesnt cross your mind and if it does ,then you know you ought to protect yourself .

i think a lot of pple are scared of what ifs ,belive me life life just gets sweeter when you know you are negatitive and maybe everybody must stand their ground and get tested.am sure you would actually kill yourself if they had to tell you that look ,you were perfectly fine untill last week .Thats when you got the virus.

be selfish , do it 4 yoself .if he doesnt want it then he aint worth it .

-- Edited by TT at 13:19, 2006-01-30

sibweni · Senior Member

TT ithink you will agree that ofcourse life is about selfishness. if you are not you end up with a miserable life in the same principe its who convinces who? you or your partner and how long are together prepared to wait before you get on with it. the process of say tests and clearance is a long one that many pple wont even believe it. its not like yeah lets go yea you are negative yah you are clear go and enjoy no being negative doesnt mean being clear you need some time and go back for confirmation this will take you almost six to nie months for you to be sure but then after that long time of waiting you never know what happened in between do you?

this is why most peple die cause we are not well informed and we think testing negative means you are cleared.this why you will find well informed people will tell you to get on with life cause just the thought of hiv in depth is source of great misery stress and all that. people in the know almost all will tell you the cure or prevention is abstainance why? cause they know its difficult and almost impossible to have sex and be sure to be careful. sex is sweet and good to think twice. i mean how many of you will think of a wrapper with a fit lad or bird completely naked . just a thought of a mate in central hospital ku 2a ofcourse and mortually is enough to put you off.

the thing is tonse tizafa at one point in time ejoy your life while you can. as onesaid" poison mixed with honey is not as dangerous as poison mixed with water"

TT · Veteran Member

of course we will all die but why die painfully .do you still consider having sex fun nowadays ?where is the fun when you have to pop in pills like sweets every three hours.where is the fun if you have to go and check your CD4 count every now and then and tell me sibweni ,what fun is there if you have to watch what to eat ,drink and always watching your stress levels.and all that for what ,for a good time that lasted twenty to thirty minutes or maybe four.

just because youve been tested negative doesnt mean you are in the clear .i have been doing it for four years now and well if something happens in between the six months ,at least i know how to handle it .there are pple who are in denial that even if the symptoms start showing ,they wont have the guts to go get tested and they start claiming kuti andilodza.

but as i said think its about time we loved ourselves enugh and say wrap it all zip it.

abre les ojos · Guru

Hey hey hey quit the scare-mongering!!

sibweni · Senior Member

TT sex is sweet sex is fun no mater what strings you attach to the game. we cant debate on that.

its an open choice go for it or abstain simple. you are scared of hiv forget it. simple, i for one am not cause i know am bound to die anyway that doesnt mean i`m not agreing the existence of the virus but am not scared of it.

if nice girls dont want me for what iam well zogula full time. what a time

Tiyo · Newbie

sibweni wrote:

if nice girls dont want me for what iam well zogula full time. what a time

nice girls can also be HIV positive or with aids. The virus does not discriminate.

TT · Veteran Member

so you actually buy huh?

sibweni · Senior Member

everything on market is to be bought. ngati akushopesa well why not.

Pope · Guru

who is a beautiful girl,tell me guys.I thought youneed the apple btwn the legs and why buy it when you can have it freee of money

sibweni · Senior Member

what we are saying is why go through tramatic hiv test while you can get one around the corner for couple of quids.

Pope · Guru

Yap I get yu but why pay when there are free ones around

TT · Veteran Member

maybe on top of the hiv test ,we must start charging as well.

so tell me sibweni,do you use condoms when you buy or you just hit it ?

sibweni · Senior Member

well its choice. rare,medium or well done.

pope free ones kuvuta kwambili. munyengelelane you see zogula there is no time wasting,its like
-am horny
-tenner
BANG YOU ARE LAID
see as simple as that

TT · Veteran Member

yeah and you get mild .hot and extra Hot ones ,thats syphillis ,ghonorea and hiv for you sweetie and maybe they must tell you in advance ,meet my friend the virus.i can hook up some for you when you get to joburg ,they do have R5.00 ones.

Pope · Guru

uh*? three types guys, which is expenssive? I like the hot one,you find her with no pants,readily available,cheww it hard and have problems later eehhh.