Guys we really need to think twice and do some research or at least have an insight of what we are talking about, some people disagree to look smart without fact or evidence and make a fool out of themselves and remember i am not trying to insult any ones intelligence.
but we are here to help one another understand things better, i know you might not agree with a point i have to make but you will probably take it into consideration unless if we are fools who only want our opinions to be heard. i chose to get out of the box, and give my personal view on this matter without hurting or degrading anyone this is not a compromised piece, so i won't be held in chains. i know some people can't handle the truth so they chose to defend lies or dillusions because they have meaningless lives. now im a witness please dont despise me, as i enter this arena to share my opinion, which may i say im not imposing on anyone.
after reading this reply on a certain topic i thought i'd pick it up and shade some light to it please i ask you all hear me out with open minds and dont cuss me out im open to constructive criticism. anyway here is what i read.
RE: BELIEF/RELIGION
I wonder if you can verify your claim that "only fools don't believe in God". I doubt it. posted in hot topics
my thought on the above is as ree said its best to believe than not to believe and at the end find out God is there.
Truly, truly I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. John 6:47
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
i believe we are all born for apurpose and when our purpose is done we will reach our destiny.
please read the following its a true experience that happened to someone.
I planned to go on to medical school. My first year of college was perfect. I was getting great grades, and I had a girlfriend and lots of friends. And I was quick to point out to people that I had all of this without relying on anyone but me.
I knew plenty of Christians. In fact, I read the Bible often, just so I could argue with Christians. I wanted to know what they believed so I could break down their reasons for believing. For example, my biophysics professor was a Christian. He would tell me about the miracles in his life, the ways he supposedly saw God's work in the world. But I thought he was way off. I'd argue with him, and try to convince him he was foolish to believe in Jesus. His faith was a joke to me.
It didn't take long for God to change my mind. During my junior year of college, everything in my world started to fall apart. My girlfriend broke up with me, I ran out of money and I had to drop out of school. So much for having it made. I thought about going back to my family in Sri Lanka, but I didn't want to face them when I'd failed so miserably.
One night, I sat in the college library, trying to come up with ways to get out of my situation. The only solution that seemed "reasonable" was suicide. But as I sat there thinking of the best way to kill myself, I heard a voice say, "Have you ever asked me for help?" I looked around and couldn't see anyone. I thought I was going crazy. Then I heard the voice say, "I'm Jesus, and I'm right here next to you."
I know this sounds strange. Believe me, I was pretty freaked out by it, too. But I honestly heard Jesus talking to me. As I listened, I felt something I'd never experienced before.
I felt filled up, not hollow and empty. I knew that what was happening to me was real.
I wanted to talk to someone, but I didn't know who. Suddenly I felt God urging me to go see my biophysics professor. That's right, the same guy I'd been arguing with all year.
I walked across campus to the science building and found him working in his office. As I walked in, he said, "I'm so glad you're here. God has put you on my heart and I've been hoping you'd come and talk to me." We talked a long time. I told him how empty my life had become.
I told him what I'd experienced in the library. As he talked to me about Jesus' power to change lives, I knew I was ready to follow Jesus. He prayed with me. That was the day I became a Christian.
After that, things started to change. God provided just what I needed, like a rent-free place to stay. But it wasn't just my situation, it was my heart that was really changing.
I wasn't worried about the future because I knew the Lord was in control, not me.
The people around me saw the changes too. Before I became a Christian, I was arrogant, selfish and manipulative. I had done things to intentionally turn people away from their Christian faith. But after my conversion, I felt humbled by God's power to change me. I wanted people to see Jesus in my life, not me or my accomplishments. I was almost grateful for my struggles, because I knew God was using them to keep me humble and focused on him. I wanted people to think, "Hey, if God can change the life of someone like Sam, I wonder what he can do in my life."
Even when things in my life are hard, I know God is with me. I feel his presence through the people at my church who pray for me and support me. I see him in the Christian friends he's given me. I try to serve him by counseling at a Bible camp in the summers. And I still hear his voice through his Word and through his answers to my prayers.
So why do I believe in Jesus? Because he's real. That night in the library, when I hit the bottom, my New Age thinking didn't help me. Buddha wasn't there for me.
I think this topic has somewhat been exhausted by now. I miss LadyB about it. Since she has a perfectly rational and intellectual outlook. Even 'though she is still a "believer" (well I'm working on it).
However, having read your amazing and almost unbelievable "testimony I have come up with a few conclusion - I'll exercise some brevity to make an easier read...
It is quite obvious why you chose the religious way out - Well, the christian one at least... A lot to do with your unhappiness and near suicidal tendency at some unhappy moment of your life. In fact I've been there before and went all born-again too. The result was quite overwhelming. I was very relieved, happy, free. Well, only temporary.
You see like The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is of cheap quality. That is the only real reasult of my personal experience with my brief wallow into religious delusion.
I'm not saying you are deluded per se. But I think that you might have some other real deep-seated psychological issues that you've just swept under the carpet. Issues that are temporarily covered up by the sweeping narrative of religious fervour. It works. Same as alcohol does. But the world eventually catches up with you. Unfortuantely, you would probably turn to MORE religion for the temporary "fix".
Of course you were arrogant before you became a christian - that is exactly my point. The arrogance was an acting out of your inner unhappiness. The fact that you're not like that is because of your "fixation" to this religion.
I think this topic has somewhat been exhausted by now. I miss LadyB about it. Since she has a perfectly rational and intellectual outlook. Even 'though she is still a "believer" (well I'm working on it). However, having read your amazing and almost unbelievable "testimony I have come up with a few conclusion - I'll exercise some brevity to make an easier read... It is quite obvious why you chose the religious way out - Well, the christian one at least... A lot to do with your unhappiness and near suicidal tendency at some unhappy moment of your life. In fact I've been there before and went all born-again too. The result was quite overwhelming. I was very relieved, happy, free. Well, only temporary. You see like The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is of cheap quality. That is the only real reasult of my personal experience with my brief wallow into religious delusion. I'm not saying you are deluded per se. But I think that you might have some other real deep-seated psychological issues that you've just swept under the carpet. Issues that are temporarily covered up by the sweeping narrative of religious fervour. It works. Same as alcohol does. But the world eventually catches up with you. Unfortuantely, you would probably turn to MORE religion for the temporary "fix". Of course you were arrogant before you became a christian - that is exactly my point. The arrogance was an acting out of your inner unhappiness. The fact that you're not like that is because of your "fixation" to this religion.
hi abres this didnt happen to me it happened to some one else see i told people to read carefully before replying, how u doing though, its interesting hearing stuff from another perspective i appreciate people who answer honestly, not for gratification reasons. nway l8a but this is not not me it happened to. im a girl not a guy.