NGWAZI,THE LEGACY LIVES ON

guevara · Senior Member

NGWAZI,THE LEGACY LIVES ON

abre les ojos · Guru

guevara wrote:

today is the official opening of the new resting place for the father and founder of the malawi nation,undoubtley,people have got mixed feelings when it comes to his reigning era.i am proud to have been part a geranation who saw one of the true sons of africa ride in his motorcade.in a time when malawi was the true 'warm heart of africa',when education mattered,when university carried weight,when the plight of an ordinary malawian mattered,sleep well NGWAZI,you worked hard.i salute Bingu for recognising the priceless work of his fellow countryman who set an example for us all.Rest NGWAZI,for you served your country right.
HERE WAS A LION,WHEN COMES SUCH ANOTHER?

Of course when you were not a victim of Kamuzu's regime. Forget about the thousands of people were killed. Children left orphans, people put in jail for just talking about the government.

Nostalgia is a dangerous thing... Funny how one sees that motorcade as a good thing now. Having kids leave their lessons just to spend 5 seconds to wave at the president.

I hated Kamuzu. I hated him for what he did to my family. I hated him for the pain he caused to a lot of innocent people. The only regret was that he didn't die a violent and painful death like some of the ones he caused.

Tutu · Member

If people have been reduced to grinding bamboo roots into food powder and termites is now literally food not because its a delicacy but because of need to survive in the absense of government support then there is a problem. It is even a bigger problem when the same government can afford to build a a multi million museloum(sp) at the expense of multi million empty stomachs and possibly thousands of deaths. What is our government trying to prove to the world? That it has more respect for the dead than those who are living? Or is it a personal war between two presidents, the former and current? By trying to prove a point, our government has directly or indirectly contributed to a few thousand deaths and should be held accountable.

I was once a staunch supporter of Bingu but I now have doubts as to whether he is indeed the one I thought he was.

As for the legacy of Kamuzu, that is a bunch of bull sh.. just like the legacy of Hitler is. How come all searches lead to him being a dictator? Did he abuse his powers because he found people who were mostly uneducated and started planting ideas in their minds so as to elevate him to the levels of messiah? Are people still worshipping him even after his death just like the other dictator Emperor Halie Selasie? Just wondering.

CJ · Newbie

May he finally rest in peace, sometimes i wonder what kind of country malawi would be if OUR LIFE PRESIDENT was still in power,would we have the western wolves hounding us like theyre doing with zimbabwe, would our economy sky rocket or would people tremble with fear in his presence.would the escalating scale of hunger,poverty and disease be something we just read about!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WONDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I take my hat to him though, he was one of the most amazing leaders Africa has ever seen.its good Bingu is wise enough to recognise that.kamuzu left a gap that will never be filled.noone will ever be able to fill his shoes.

abre les ojos · Guru

Once again Nostalgia.

He wasn't so nice when you lot were afraid to speak about him even inside your own homes huh? How about all you folks that voted against him in the referendum?

Western hounds. What are you? Yes the west is hypocritical when it comes to African Leaders but as far as I'm concerned Mugabe is equally to blame for his country's mess.

We seem to forget "meat for crocodiles" and all those other horrible Kamuzuisms. As ever there will always be a rift between those who love him and the rest of us (I suppose majority) that are happy he's gone.

guevara · Senior Member

i am more on the patriotic side than nostalgic.kamuzu deserves recognition for the work he did for malawi,he might have killed people(no solid proof),or it could have been his henchmen silencing their foes.what ever the case,it wasnt transparent.but then,they had their feet deep in the dirty game of politics,where trust barely exists.

kamuzu is and will always be the father and founder of malawi,and his legacy will be there for genarations to come.we can spend days looking at his achievements,not personal,but national!a good leader cares about the ordinary people and thats what he did.

R.I.P NGWAZI,TRUE SON OF AFRICA.

abre les ojos · Guru

Kamuzu didn't "found" Malawi. He wasn't even there from the start. I am utterly insulted that you say there is NO PROOF of Kamuzu's crimes. After all my family and even I were victims of his regime.

To be patriotic doesn't mean you have to love Kamuzu. Kamuzu isn't Malawi and the country would still exist and stil does without him.

What Achievements? Malawi is one of the poorest countries in the world. The infant mortality rate? the hunger? the disease? The fact that the country relies on a single stable crop and an ever decreasing export crop. I don't see what he "achieved"? Apart from of course making millions for himself and Tembo and the like, putting a lot of people in jail and ordering the deaths of thousands of people.

guevara · Senior Member

abre,look behind you and walk on!

kamuzu was and still is a genius!

Tutu · Member

guevara wrote:

abre,look behind you and walk on! kamuzu was and still is a genius!

Be serious Geuvera, Kamuzu was not a genius. May be I should ask you what did he do that would qualify him to be a genius. If Kamuzu was a genius then so was Hiltler, Sese Seko and Hussein. Trust me if Kamuzu was still alive today with all his senses in place today, there would be no internet in Malawi or least it would be very restricted just like in China and our beautiful ladies would still be arrested for wearing trousers.

Are you that brain washed that you can not think like a smart man that you sometimes are?

abre les ojos · Guru

It is an insult to the name of guevara. But anyway, I doubt if he even knows what he stands for. Back to the subject. I think he really is just tying to court controversy, Either that or he is one of those staunch MCP brainwashed folk that believed that stuff Kamuzu spewed everytime he opned his mouth.

I can give a long list of things that I think were horrible about that particular government. Like Tutu said. Can you imagine women not allowed to wear trousers of minis. All that censorship... Like I said earlier, my only regret was that Kamuzu wasn't deposed violently, his body cut into pieces and fed to crocodiles like he ordered done to his oponents.

Ayatollah · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

Kamuzu didn't "found" Malawi. He wasn't even there from the start. I am utterly insulted that you say there is NO PROOF of Kamuzu's crimes. After all my family and even I were victims of his regime. To be patriotic doesn't mean you have to love Kamuzu. Kamuzu isn't Malawi and the country would still exist and stil does without him. What Achievements? Malawi is one of the poorest countries in the world. The infant mortality rate? the hunger? the disease? The fact that the country relies on a single stable crop and an ever decreasing export crop. I don't see what he "achieved"? Apart from of course making millions for himself and Tembo and the like, putting a lot of people in jail and ordering the deaths of thousands of people.

Kamuzu didn't "found" Malawi. Are you for real? What an intellectual you are....

abre les ojos · Guru

Someone never heard of inverted commas use to denote irony. What's funny is that you don't have much to say so you seem to think it is somehow amusing nipicking at my arguments. Arguments that you are too flea-brained to understand. Well, I really don't blame you... You know and we know what your shortcomings are...

You see, I have ignored you calling my mother a whore in your private messages, or you confessing to the accusations that we have labelled you and not put it out publicly for all to see. You should be kissing my butt and telling me how it smells like roses...

game · Guru

haha!!

so he finally confessed,i wonder why.

micahj3k · Member

posted by abres les ojos

Of course when you were not a victim of Kamuzu's regime. Forget about the thousands of people were killed. Children left orphans, people put in jail for just talking about the government.

Nostalgia is a dangerous thing... Funny how one sees that motorcade as a good thing now. Having kids leave their lessons just to spend 5 seconds to wave at the president.

I hated Kamuzu. I hated him for what he did to my family. I hated him for the pain he caused to a lot of innocent people. The only regret was that he didn't die a violent and painful death like some of the ones he caused.

my reply

Abres les ojos i can relate to you, because my family was victim of kamuzus regime i lost my grandfather and his brother had to exile, but i have learnt to forgive. I am noway in favour of what kamuzu's regime did. Have you realised all blame goes to banda for all the bad things that took place in malawi, have you taken time out to think what about the people who worked with him they were involved, why not blame them aswell as much as banda played a big role in all this they are to blame too.

people like my grandfather and his brother who tried to oppose that regime are dead but for a good cause, i am not happy with what happened during that regime. What we need to take into consideration is banda was a fighter for the liberation of malawi against white oppression besides his weaknesses, but who can say they are perfect. to a certain extent he was a hero for the nation and Africa. Kamuzu will be held accountable for all the oppression he caused to the people of malawi, but that judgement will be given by God.

now about this new mausoleum that is being built, it is a new great gesture at the wrong time, millions are said to die in malawi because of hunger and poverty and Aids and yet the leaders are busy spending money on a grave, come on lets be realistic In most poor African coutries, like Malawi, those in power decide the fate of the country, hence the fate of the poor majority. Malawian officials know well enough that malawi is one of the countries in africa that is suffering from acute shortage of food. Personally, i am dumbfounded at reading news - constructing a mausoleum. This immoral decision to go on with the construction is a reflection of the insensitivity of the current officails to thier people, spending so much money on a grave and saying that despite the colossal death rate of their people the project should continue.

By making such dubious financial decisions it shows that the 'cancer' destroying africa is not just its debt but selfish, arrogant and small minded African politicans with the me, me, me and some more for me syndrome.

The mausoleum is indeed a befiting respect for the father of the Malawi Nation, Ngwazi Dr Hastings Kamuzu Banda. But the timing! And the moral / religious implication. Do people know that, today, now, somewhere in Malawi, there's somebody who doesn't have any food in the house? Oh, the Merciful God, postpone the construction and feed the people. I agree Kamuzu Banda should have a monument bulit in his honour. Although a dictator, in the Banda years crimes such as murder and theft were unheard of and his people were never starved. Banda did the best for Malawi and always had Malawi's interests at heart. Just look what democracy has done to Malawi. Murders and theft are common and nearly all the houses have burglar bars and electric fencing to keep intruders out. This was not the case in the Banda years. The currency has devalued from once being 2 kwacha to the pound to over 205 kwacha today.

The democracy in Malawi has taken Malawi back 200 years and it has to take alot of time to make up the standards set by Kamuzu Banda. Banda without doubt did the best for Malawi and now you have politicians stealing public funds and abusing government funds. Banda will always be the number one leader for Malawi. He deserves a monument, not now the people of malawi need to come first, besides this monument should have been done a while back but no they had to do it now. please malawian leaders get back to your senses.

Remember the saying where good resides there also evil is present, banda stood up to presidents of the western culture he has a positive and negative side to him though a dictator, but still not as bad as the cronies that surrounded him and fed him the information they thought he wanted to know.

well he is dead. so i'll let the man rest in i certainly cant say peace cos i dont know where he is resting.

peace

pls dont eat me alive because of this article, constructive criticism would be nice. thanks