DR. KAMUZU BANDA AND FLY WHISK

Pope · Guru

DR. KAMUZU BANDA AND FLY WHISK

abre les ojos · Guru

Pope wrote:

Dr Banda's Fly whisk was the best that could suit him.It had alot of stories when he was alive such as juju,it could silence the multitude at a political rally,it could tell him about danger.You can name the rest.My question is this;where did he get it from.How could Dr Banda believe in such superstition.Can we not take that fly whisk and put it in the museum because some of us would like to have a close look at it.

Good post.

I never really thought of that till you brought it up. Yeah, I remember all that supertitious crap and all those idiots believed it. The power of dillusion...

But how is that any different from any organised religion?

Ankhaze · Member

yess! you will find that after doing his homework and saw that people believed in juju so much than in themselves, he found a weak point and used that......... ayise munthu kuti uyankhule za HKB mnyumba kumaopa kuti amva ku Sanjika... zoona zimenezo! koma ka two minutes kena kake anawutha mtundu wa Malawi sikuzapezekanso wina! sad very sad....

YTP · Guru

i heard kuti the thing was as itchy as hell chikakugunda!!!!!!

Tiyo · Newbie

Wasn't it just a symbol of power? One ruler for the nation, thefore only one person could carry it? Other society uses Tiara's, rings, stools....

YTP · Guru

Tiyo wrote:

Wasn't it just a symbol of power? One ruler for the nation, thefore only one person could carry it? Other society uses Tiara's, rings, stools....

MIGHT BE BUT IT WAS ALSO KNOWN TO HAVE SPECIAL POWERS ..................I GUESS WE WILL NEVER KNOW UNLESS OF-COURSE MAMA OR WHOEVA ENLIGHTENS US. NANGA NDODO IJA? HE STARTED HAVING IT AT AN EARLIER AGE(ASANAKALAMBE) WAS IT ANOTHER SYMBOL OF POWER OR ANOTHER SORT OF FASHION TOOL?

Pope · Guru

He could not ddo kwaaaaaacha without flashing the fly whisk.Am also told Kaunda have a white handkerchief for the same purpose.

Pope · Guru

Tiyo wrote:

Wasn't it just a symbol of power? One ruler for the nation, thefore only one person could carry it? Other society uses Tiara's, rings, stools....

Can you enlighten me on Tiara's and stools.

Pope · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

Yeah, I remember all that supertitious crap and all those idiots believed it. The power of dillusion... But how is that any different from any organised religion?

Superstition and religion.I thought superstition is african science which you should have been supporting. It used to be our culture before the missioneries and I think thus why Dr.Banda thought of using these natural beliefs.Remember some NEC members refused to accept him as a Malawian.The question is where did he get the flt whisk, because when landing he flashed it.Did he get it in UK or in Kumasi Ghana.

abre les ojos · Guru

Superstition is superstition, whether African or Western. All is bollocks if you ask me. Any apparent event that has no relation to reality. And no, superstition is not African science. Science is a very different thing. Infact science is the exact opposite.

Banda knew one thing at least. That Malawians were generally, by virtue of their ignorance, ready to believe anything. The fly-whisk came from a horses arse, or whatever animal that was. Originally it has aesthetic value only. Till the myth filtered out about some magical power it had. No it was an animals tail!

Pope · Guru

So Ngwazi mocked and teased the nation by carefully learning from our weaknesses

abre les ojos · Guru

Pope wrote:

So Ngwazi mocked and teased the nation by carefully learning from our weaknesses

Yep, like any politician, anywhere in the world.

Tiyo · Newbie

Can you enlighten me on Tiara's and stools

I was referring to the Golden Stool in Ghana, among the Ashanti people. As for tiara(or similar Head gear), I can name a few : the Baoule's of Cote d"ivoire, the Mossi of Burkina Fasso. Only the rulers got to wear/sit on the crown/stool. In some european countries like Roumania, they used to have a scepter (decorated with diamonds and other goodies mind you) that only the president was allowed to touch and carry.That was the symbol of his power. Up to this day correct me if I am wrong, Queen Elizabeth has one that only she gets to carry around.

Pope · Guru

Tiyo wrote:

Can you enlighten me on Tiara's and stools I was referring to the Golden Stool in Ghana, among the Ashanti people. As for tiara(or similar Head gear), I can name a few : the Baoule's of Cote d"ivoire, the Mossi of Burkina Fasso. Only the rulers got to wear/sit on the crown/stool. In some european countries like Roumania, they used to have a scepter (decorated with diamonds and other goodies mind you) that only the president was allowed to touch and carry.That was the symbol of his power. Up to this day correct me if I am wrong, Queen Elizabeth has one that only she gets to carry around.

Everyone believes in fantasy, I tell you superstition is common in the west.

-- Edited by Pope at 13:43, 2005-09-29

abre les ojos · Guru

NO NO NO not everyone believes in fantasy, Pope. Even if it is common in the west doesn't mean squat. There's a reason why it's called superstition. It is false.....

Pope · Guru

You have baffled me,why should a Queen believe in that then,or is it a myth.

game · Guru

guys

jomo kenyatta,keneth kaunda all had flywhiskies,it was the order of the day in the sixties,it symbolised power nothing else,alot of colonial african leaders shared many things in common,nkrummar also had one,it was fashionable then,you dont see them now because days are changing.remember kamuzus hair style,he had a tiny little line on the head,that was a symbol of smartness.

bingiza · Guru

The old man went to the grave with his fly whisk, walking stick donning his favorite "chi bland chakuda" and his bob hat on the chest. If there is an after life they should be arguments btwn Botha,Machel and Banda right about now.

BlackMoses · Veteran Member

bingiza wrote:

If there is an after life they should be arguments btwn Botha,Machel and Banda right about now.

arguments on what? perhaps, as to who caused Machel's death during the plane crash belleved to have been masterminded by Botha and Banda?

forget, the guys were good masterminders, they didnt leave any trails! if two previous regimes (Botha's & Mandela's) of SA with the help of KGB could not unearth the truth. do you think Machel could do that in death?