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Have the commntaries around the rest of the world been as biased about the Black "looters " versus the white " SURVIVORS"

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am not well informed but looking at the aftermath of the devastating katrina,the reason the federal government delayed its reaction was because black people are a majority,and black communities in america are second classed and negrected no wonder they all turn to looting as its every man for his asss.

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Without a doubt. If this had happened in Boston or Conneticut or even New York it won't be the same. It is a travesty!

The commentaries here are a lot more harsh. America has failed woefully its poor citizens. The richest country in the world?

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Basically whats going on over here is that they are addressing the black people as 'looters' - lawsless folks whilst saying that the white are 'survivors desperate to get help' - to be pitied. LA as Game mentioned is predominatly black. Its taken the govt a week to send food. A week ? It was Monday when they hit. The media keeps saying why didnt people leave...Al ot of them were too poor to leave or were broke enought to decide to sit out the storm. All the rich folks got out. They do the same type of reporting to black americans as they do to us Africans. They make the black folks really look like people you dont want to hlep lawless looters. This one guy had t pull up his shirt to a reporter and say 'I am a chirstian , I feel bad taking these bandages from Rite AID (drug store) and show his wounds so tht he is not portryed in a negative light. What is this country all about ?

Furthermore we keep hearing comments on CNN saying stuff like, " This place looks like a refugee camp in Africa" Now why dont they just leave us alone? Keep us out of this...

Also apparently, oneanti American web site called the hurricane Private Katrina. You cant treat minorites like this and then turn around and wonder why people thin your policies stink. what is this wolrd coming to ?

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Well, now you know why we think America sucks...

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Why no mention of race or class in TV's Katrina coverage?
By Jack Shafer
Posted Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2005, at 4:22 PM PT



What the newscasters didn't say


I can't say I saw everything that the TV newscasters pumped out about Katrina, but I viewed enough repeated segments to say with 90 percent confidence that broadcasters covering the New Orleans end of the disaster demurred from mentioning two topics that must have occurred to every sentient viewer: race and class.

Nearly every rescued person, temporary resident of the Superdome, looter, or loiterer on the high ground of the freeway I saw on TV was African-American. And from the look of it, they weren't wealthy residents of the Garden District. This storm appears to have hurt blacks more directly than whites, but the broadcasters scarcely mentioned that fact.



Now, don't get me wrong. Just because 67 percent of New Orleans residents are black, I don't expect CNN to rename the storm "Hurricane" Carter in honor of the black boxer. Just because Katrina's next stop after destroying coastal Mississippi was counties that are 25 percent to 86 percent African-American (according to this U.S. Census map), and 27.9 percent of New Orleans residents are below the poverty line, I don't expect the Rev. Jesse Jackson to call the news channels to give a comment. But in the their frenzy to beat freshness into the endless loops of disaster footage that have been running all day, broadcasters might have mentioned that nearly all the visible people left behind in New Orleans are of the black persuasion, and mostly poor.

To be sure, some reporters sidled up to the race and class issue. I heard them ask the storm's New Orleans victims why they hadn't left town when the evacuation call came. Many said they were broke—"I live from paycheck to paycheck," explained one woman. Others said they didn't own a car with which to escape and that they hadn't understood the importance of evacuation.

But I don't recall any reporter exploring the class issue directly by getting a paycheck-to-paycheck victim to explain that he couldn't risk leaving because if he lost his furniture and appliances, his pots and pans, his bedding and clothes, to Katrina or looters, he'd have no way to replace them. No insurance, no stable, large extended family that could lend him cash to get back on his feet, no middle-class job to return to after the storm.

What accounts for the broadcasters' timidity? I saw only a couple of black faces anchoring or co-anchoring but didn't see any black faces reporting from New Orleans. So, it's safe to assume that the reluctance to talk about race on the air was a mostly white thing. That would tend to imply that white people don't enjoy discussing the subject. But they do, as long as they get to call another white person racist.

My guess is that Caucasian broadcasters refrain from extemporizing about race on the air mostly because they fear having an Al Campanis moment. Campanis, you may recall, was the Los Angeles Dodgers vice president who brought his career to an end when he appeared on Nightline in 1987 and explained to Ted Koppel that blacks might not have "some of the necessities" it takes to manage a major league team or run it as a general manager for the same reason black people aren't "good swimmers." They lack "buoyancy," he said.

Not to excuse Campanis, but as racists go he was an underachiever. While playing in the minor leagues, he threw down his mitt and challenged another player who was bullying Jackie Robinson. As Dodger GM, he aggressively signed black and Latino players, treated them well, and earned their admiration. Although his Nightline statement was transparently racist, in the furor that followed, nobody could cite another racist remark he had ever made. His racism, which surely blocked blacks from potential front-office Dodger careers, was the racism of overwhelming ignorance—a trait he shared (shares?) with many other baseball executives.

This sort of latent racism (or something more potent) may lurk in the hearts of many white people who end up on TV, as it does in the hearts of many who watch. Or, even if they're completely clean of racism's taint, anchors and reporters fear that they'll suffer a career-stopping Campanis moment by blurting something poorly thought out or something that gets misconstrued. Better, most think, to avoid discussing race at all unless someone with impeccable race credentials appears to supervise—and indemnify—everybody from potentially damaging charges of racism.

Race remains largely untouchable for TV because broadcasters sense that they can't make an error without destroying careers. That's a true pity. If the subject were a little less taboo, one of last night's anchors could have asked a reporter, "Can you explain to our viewers, who by now have surely noticed, why 99 percent of the New Orleans evacuees we're seeing are African-American? I suppose our viewers have noticed, too, that the provocative looting footage we're airing and re-airing seems to depict mostly African-Americans."

If the reporter on the ground couldn't answer the questions, a researcher could have Nexised the New Orleans Times-Picayune five-parter from 2002, "Washing Away," which reported that the city's 100,000 residents without private transportation were likely to be stranded by a big storm. In other words, what's happening is what was expected to happen: The poor didn't get out in time.

To the question of looting, an informed reporter or anchor might have pointed out that anybody—even one of the 500 Nordic blondes working in broadcast news—would loot food from a shuttered shop if they found themselves trapped by a flood and had no idea when help would come. However sympathetic I might be to people liberating necessities during a disaster in order to survive, I can't muster the same tolerance for those caught on camera helping themselves in a leisurely fashion to dry goods at Wal-Mart. Those people weren't looting as much as they were shopping for good stuff to steal. MSNBC's anchor Rita Cosby, who blurted an outraged if inarticulate harrumph when she aired the Wal-Mart heist footage, deserves more respect than the broadcasters who gave the tape the sort of nonjudgmental commentary they might deliver if they were watching the perps vacuum the carpets at home.

When disaster strikes, Americans—especially journalists—like to pretend that no matter who gets hit, no matter what race, color, creed, or socioeconomic level they hail from, we're all in it together. This spirit informs the 1997 disaster flick Volcano, in which a "can't we all just get along" moment arrives at the film's end: Volcanic ash covers every face in the big crowd scene, and everybody realizes that we're all members of one united race.

But we aren't one united race, we aren't one united class, and Katrina didn't hit all folks equally. By failing to acknowledge upfront that black New Orleanians—and perhaps black Mississippians—suffered more from Katrina than whites, the TV talkers may escape potential accusations that they're racist. But by ignoring race and class, they boot the journalistic opportunity to bring attention to the disenfranchisement of a whole definable segment of the population. What I wouldn't pay to hear a Fox anchor ask, "Say, Bob, why are these African-Americans so poor to begin with?"

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Note to Al Campanis' departed soul: Al, if you had endowed a foundation to build a 50-meter pool in an urban neighborhood and hired some good coaches, I bet that pool would have spawned Olympic-caliber swimmers. Send your Katrina nuggets to document.write("") document.write("slate.pressbox"+"@"+"gmail.com"); slate.pressbox@gmail.com document.write(''); . (E-mail may be quoted unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)


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Click here for a full roster of Slate's Katrina coverage. Last year, Daniel Engber explained how reliable hurricane forecasts are. And if you're more interested in class than race, click here to read Shafer's analysis of two special series on the topic in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

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Its sad that America with all its wealth and technological advancement should suffer this huge setback. It's sadder still when there are indications that loss of life could have been prevented if consideration had been given for those that would not have 'walked' the journey to escape Katrina's path without adequate assistance.

I am sure many of you would agree with me that the Bush administration's would have been swifter and more effective had this been election year.

One thing the commentators are right about is that the scene is like that of refugees in Africa. All Africans on this forum know that in Africa, when disaster strikes it is usually the poor, the sick and the infirm who are left to suffer the consequences.

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We are better equipped to face starvation though ..I dont think people would be hitting the local PTC b/c of hunger, it hasnt happend yet.

Your Right TJ, had it been election year, it would have been swifter - I hope this get rid of the black voters that swayed Republican during this years election - America simply doesnt give a damn about it black population . With the numbers of black folks that dies in this situation , surely, black folk are no longer the largets minority group.

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Well we always said it that the only thins America really does better is good PR. The truth is there are more poor there than any country in the west. The divide is sharp and harsh and it took a natural disaster to highlight it once again the benefits of government. Other countries are actually better equipped to handle stuff like this because they have better government expenditure. Not of like Bush's tax cuts for the rich huh?

I'd like to see how Bush (or Rove) attempts to paint himself like FDR and "take charge". But this ain't the 30s, America really can't cope. It doesn't have the ready cash surplus to fund a huge reconstruction project not with Iraq (which is paid for by the Chinese and Japanese). Other countries have offered to help but have been declined (national security). But then again its poor black folk innit?

An old lady was interviewed by a BBC correspondent and she said "what did you expect'? That just said it all.

I found this article quite interesting too

http://www.alternet.org/story/25018/

-- Edited by abre les ojos at 21:50, 2005-09-03

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I watched Bush speaking on CNN yesterday. He gave one of those "god bless America" speeches.
Why has the government delayed with search and rescue? supplying aid? transporting the refugees?and why have they blocked more people from entering the stadium?
I remember hearing some black guy ask, "would there have been any changes if money had not gone to Iraq?" These are just some of the questions people are asking the white house. Sadly, the administration hasn't answered these tough questions. Instead, like 9/11, Bush gave a response. And from there we see a pattern. Bush tends to sway away from answering questions that concern the issue at hand.I guess thats politics .Anyways, its not time to be point figures. Elections are over.
As other honorable members have pointed out; there are plenty of reasons why blacks were hit worse. If anything, its more an issue of class than race. As is always the case, the poor are alwasy hit the worst.


-- Edited by skillzmanifest at 07:34, 2005-09-04

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Pathetic isn't it?

Well what they say about democracy - you get the government you deserve. No more no less.

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My pity only goes so far. Malawian farmers find themselves stranded (the same way those hurricane victims are in) just about every year. We're always left to fend for ourselves in hard times, without any assistance from government. Sure, Katrina was terrible, but I'd rather allocate money to poverty alleviation for my brothers and sisters back home, who are thankful for just recieving oxygen. Who can go on without Mcdonalds, gas for vehicles and all these easily accessible commodities westerners enjoy and survive on.




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Poor Black Americans. It is sad and disgusting. What is really scary is how it looks like a third world war zone. The chickens have finally come home to roost, but unfortunately, it is our black bothers that are bearing the pain and loss.

I can't halp by but feel a certain disgust at seeing dead bodies all over the place. Worse than Baghdad innit?

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i think the whole katrina scenario is oversaturated,remember phalombe disaster back in motherland,aid agencies took months to recognise the damage caused,first donations were blankets when people were dying of hunger and disease outbreaks,there was no superdomes to take shelter in, but man survived on his own.malawi is one poor country but managed to accomodate its citizens in that devastating event.

these americans dont even know how to handle the harsh realities of life,the country is so rich and well equipped to withstand the natural phenominal effects,they just want remorse from the world,when in africa these things happen everyday.from aids to working under bad conditions,wars the list goes on,and still we survive.now one earths fury submerges a small city that only has a population of black people they publicly cut their skin to show their heartache.who are they?the twelve tribes?my asss.

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Still those pictures of crying children, dead bodies floating in the streets and people crying for help are positively heartbreaking and from a humanist perspective appaling to say the least. I feel for them all.

No one really deserves to live through that. But it does show that nature is the BOSS. Totally unrelenting. No matter how rich or powerful you are.

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true Abre, i feel for those people but what about dead women and children in congo,



remember this.

untill the philosophy,which holds one race superior and another inferior.
is finally,and permanently,discredited and abandoned,untill there no longer,first class and second class citizens of nation,untill the color of a man skin,is of no more significance than the color of his eyes,that untill the basic human rights,are equally guaranteed to all without regards to race.that untill tha day,the dream of lasting peace,world citizenship,and rule of international morality,and untill ignoble and un happy regimes that holds our brothers in angola,in mozambique,south africa,subhuman bondage,have been toppled,utterly destroyed,untill that day,the African continent,will not know peace,we africans we fight if necessary,we know we shall win as we are confidence,in the victory,of good over evil.



words by his majesty,some might wonder whats the relation to the matter at hand,the answer is simple,america has done more harm than good to mankind,from hiroshima to the middle east,nagasaki to iraq,america wants the whole world to grieve with her in her times of sorrow,but cares less of other peoples predicaments.

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I agree with you. I am of course the most anti-America culture and foreign policy person you're ever likely to meet. America hubris is anoying to me and I do feel a sense of "it serves them right after what they've been doing". But I grieve for black people who also ARE the victims of America. Those crying children in Missisipi and New Orleans ARE African. They look like they're from Bangwe or Ndirande. The only difference is geography. They are as black and poor as Africans. Some even worse.

Sad it is...

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I have a big problem with the media. With the wide increase flow of information It has all become about getting a wider audience. Disasters have some how become entertainment. The more shocking the better. They do it to the extreme that they show the same pictures over and over again. It also depends on where it is happening. If its happening in Europe or USA then the media is their like vultures to get the most shocking pictures, September 11 comes to mind.

Katrina is bad but there are worse things that are happening in Africa that we dont see and that we will never get to hear of because the media is not interested in it. TV having a wider audience has got also obligations to advertisers and sometimes the government so out of censorship they decide what we see and what we dont. Its all about business for them the wider the audience the more money they make. They dont even care about the disasters or atrocities that are happening. Unfortunately where the media is thats where you hear a lot of people pledging a lot of money. USA has unfortunately created a nation that is not able to think for themselves the media thinks for them.

USA is the richest country in the world donating money to help is for me not really necessary i would rather donate money to anti-aids campaing programs operating in Africa.
NOTE: I write USA not America because i live in South America and the south americans resent it when only those from USA are referred to as americans.

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one thing is for sure though.black americans still are entangled in a web of misery,mental slavery to be more specific,all black leaders from jesse jackson to condie rice live in a fantasy world of political turmoil and propaganda,they are all puppets,manipulated and brainwashed always protecting their own interests and ignoring the plight of brothers and sisters.


true black leaders have since been erased and chucked into an abyss of history,noone will ever walk in the shoes of El haji shabaazi,martin luther king jr,elijah mohammed,patris lumumba.the days when a black man would ever stand up tall have since been overshadowed by greed,rudeness,impudence,lack of corporation,the birth of snitches,we are back to the days where we would kill a brother just to please a white man.

katrina should teach us all lessons,the white man will never be our friend no matter what.its time we start looking out for each other,as a black nation,if we was united as a people and stopped trusting these red neck wackos such grotesque scenerios in mississipi and new orleans would be prevented.

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The media has indeed exagerated on the issue.On the other hand being here for a while NO has one of the highest black on black crime in the south. If you have been to neworleans you will agree with me that people walking in the streets strapping a pis is not a forktale.
Most black people ended up in such situation because either they did not have the means to evacuate or they underestimated the wrath of katrina.
By deciding to ride the storm the power went out and they didnt know about the breach of the cannal wall until it was too late and they ende up in the attics

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Well I have been to New Orleans and I didn't see any evidence of a higher crime rate than say, Chicago.

But the point is, you have to give the media credit here because it highlighted the extent of the human tragedy and knowing how useless American corporate media has become, it is a good thing that they seem to be growing their teeth back and challenging the governmet to do something.

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I live 2 hrs fro the NO. Just for your info. check this site.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8999837/

In my 1st posting i was comparing the NO to the southern states. Last spring i went to the NO and we had to run for cover when we heard gun shots. By the way this was burbon street on a saturday evening.The next day we saw on TV that 4 people were shot. There is violence in NO take it or leave it.

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I didn't say there was no violence I just said I didn't witness it on my holiday. But the history of New Orleans is a very violent one. From slavery to Jim Crow til now. It was a brothel town for crying out loud, full of prostitutes, voodoo, jazz and all that stuff. Not to forget its inner city poverty of which there is clear link between that and violence. Some places look and feel like Africa for sure. But violence is not a monopoly of black people, the slavery that brought them there and the social consciousness of it thereof has conspired to keep black folk deperate, poor and backward.

But thats America. With all its pretty PR about being the bastion of freedom (as if they invented it) and all that crap about the American dream the truth is VERY, VERY, ugly indeed and it takes something like Katrina to open the wounds that America glossy, media hides from the rest of the world.

Sad, if only a testament to the benefits of public service investment.

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the media have done a very good job so far,lets not attack them,alot of poor black people are gang bangers, they took advantage of the situation under the watchfull aye of the media giving them a story to tell.if the media was not there we wouldnt have known the extent of the damage caused by katrina.


vietmam for example,if there was no media coverage that war would have lasted long enough,but because we saw the human rights abuse and the crimes committed by soldiers from both factions it ignited someone to call for cease fire.katrina again Dubya took the stick because we saw dead bodies being washed away while he attended some charity party instead of deploying the national guard to the gulf coast.


 



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I agree. The American media has alomost redeemed itself. Almost. Except Fox that seems to think that criticizing the government for its lack of public spending and relief effort is actually tantamount to treason.

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Yes the media has done a good job informing us about Katrina but isnt that what they do best.  I am sure some journalist will get promoted for this. This is a natural disaster and they have exploited the failures of the US government. So may be it is wrong of me to attack them.  But what we musnt forget is that this took place in USA and most of the victims are black but lets not forget that they are not africans they are black americans. Look at the response this has got.  The media has so much power that if they covered other incidents that are happening around the world at this magnitude the world will respond.


Yes Game without the media the Vietnam war wouldnt have been stopped.  Yes when they are images war becomes real to us.  Wars like Vietnam, gulf war the more american soldiers lose their lives and these images are being brought into american homes, the more the american public will start questioning themselves and have the feeling that something must be done.  Yes the media with its images create negative responses that makes people to put pressure on their governments to stop wars but sometimes they create responses that makes people think that war is neccesary.  Look at what happened after september 11 all those images being shown over and over again.  CNN, NBC,FOX they even had this theme America under attack.  This was bound to have an impact on the genaral domestic public.  It gave the americans and allied forces right on their side to attack Afghanistan and later even Iraq.  What about the innocent afghanistan, iraqian women and children.  What matters to the super power is who is killed.  If its an american then its important and we get to hear about it.  I ask myself alot of time when i am watching the news what are we not being shown and why are we being shown this?   


 



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