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fellow country men.


in these turbulent times on this forum,it is important to have a global perspective on our prison welfare.for insight into the issues that affect us all,we need the kind of intelligent,uncompromising and truly effective analysis of our prisons.


we talk about religion,politics,social and developmental issues without greatly putting the need for intelligent analysis of the prison life in malawi,seeing that this forum offers a valuable insight into events of global inportance over a diverse range of topics from political manouvring to corporate restructuring,from scientific advances to social ethics.i wish to divert our concerns to whether prison life in malawi reforms man or only corrupts him?


remember some day no matter how legit we be,prison life is inevitable.



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Hmmm Tough one since I've never given prison much thought, certainly not MW prisons.


Whether prison reforms or corrupts if a question sociologists ask everywhere. In MW its the same. Everyone in MW I know who's gone to prison is exactly the same. They probably learnt more skills in there. One has to understand crime first before you can punish it. If a man is jailed for stealing, put in jail, comes out, he's still going to need to get paid the only way he knows how. In that case reform didn't work.


Prison as a form of punishment for crime, yes. But punishment without remorse is useless.



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gentlemen, it is very unfortunate...   prison life in the warm heart is not a 'reform' centre it is another sobibor!  those of you who have watched escape from sobibor will understand.  reform should or is meant to change behaviour not someones skin...  how do you expect me to change when all i meet at chichiri is torture and nothing else but torture?  no school, no sport, no bed, no discipline... its all hell!  all you learn is yakumbuyo.  i swear am out of that place with the drilling i get from inmates i would be a menace!


health facilities - 0, how do you expect a TB infected prisoner to be in the same cell with other inmates, a tiny room crowded to the door, its a pity!  hey that life!


reform is 1% and ussually its pretence.. 



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Yeah, but the country has to proritise between the people inside prison and the ones outside. I should think that the law-abiding ones would be more important, won't you?


Still prisoners are citizens as well and if the state incarcerated them then it has the responsibility to their well-being. But MW is not the west and it costs money that we just don't have. Human rights cost money. Rather build a school than another prison wing. And besides the worse the prison conditions less likely the prisoner is to reoffend. I think...



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yes you are very correct, but suppose that school builing was erected within the prison campus?  dont you think that would be a big step towards reformation?

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Good I think I will support abre now that is looking at the position Malawi is now.We reaaly need to reform the education sector than prisons.In the past we had political detainees who crowded prisons.Today our prisons are patronised by armed robbers who find their way after killing an innocent malawian.I believe they also need a reformed prison but not on the expense of health,education or even security.As abre has said I also dont have an experience of mw prison but most of the patrons today are drop outs or school leavers who can not afford a job.Now tell me game,with the case of our situation what do we start.Yeah we can discuss now but I feel we are far from implementing these points that we may be discussing.


At the mean time I feel let these prisoners meet the hard way and the only way.Fortunately those guys in there are not political prisoners,they are killers,robbers,and phone snatchers you can name them.


The gem can not be polished without friction,nor man perfected without trials................


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As part of a rehabilitation programme we could get long-term prisoners to work. I can think of several jobs that they can be doing. I remember they used to do it during Banda's time. I wonder if they still do...

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my question was whether prison life reforms man or corrupts him?reform in a sense that when he gets out he wont catch another case,corrupts in a sense that it makes him worse,more prepared to act another felony.i certainly did not mention about more school blocks.


 



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prisons in malawi ere really hell it is really hard punishment but i feel that when pipo stay in prison for a long time they get used to it but for some pipo they learn a lesson  so you can not say it makes one worse or it makes one change this all deppends on an individual they are some pipo who change when they get out of prison but some its likely that they will offend again but most of the pipo who go to our prisons in malawi they change cause they are really punished

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opong wrote:


prisons in malawi ere really hell it is really hard punishment but i feel that when pipo stay in prison for a long time they get used to it but for some pipo they learn a lesson  so you can not say it makes one worse or it makes one change this all deppends on an individual they are some pipo who change when they get out of prison but some its likely that they will offend again but most of the pipo who go to our prisons in malawi they change cause they are really punished



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A Opong mwachitika bwanji mukutumiza izi kawili?



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Sorry for not answering the direct topic but still more as abre stated I looked much on a prisoner himself. Now to your topic I want to say the prisons in Malawi need to reform.First our warders need to reform and they need to understand the description of their duty.These are the pipo who can help inmates to be reformed.You will find out that the warders are being corrupted by inmates to smuggle things to them.The other option is for the young ones to get full education and libraries.They need to be exposed to news,extra curriculum activities.But for the elderly they need to be exposed to full time spiritual life.Am sure we also need to donate our human resources so that alot could be achieved



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Great idea, now who's going to pay for it. I mean, the University doesn't even have a full library.

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Dente i didnt mean to send it 2 times im sorry im sure you will forgive me

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