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Going through one of their most recent research reports on disease control from Bradley Hasbro Children's Research Centre (US), it is revealed that adolescents and young adults currently account for 50% of new HIV infections on an annual basis in Sub-Saharan Africa. As a result, ongoing research and information on HIV prevention has become a high priority for this age group. Now a new study reveals that helping adolescents manage their emotions may be just as important as providing them with information on the practical side of safe sex in order to prevent HIV and other sexually transmitted infections.

Children age ranged 11-15 should be offered condoms and those aged 9-10 should as well be involved in sex education sessions where girls discuss something like “monthly periods” and of course masturbation and homosexuality.

If we are talking of traffic-lights (ma roboti) do you consider this to be a Green Light for under-aged sex or a feasibly controlled calculation to save our children from this epidemic?

Hint: the impact on our children’s future as regards HIV as well as AIDS in Malawi.(lets talk sexual)



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Now you talk, but what for? Thats encouraging them to do so since they will need to try and know how it is with a condom at the end they will need to do it again and know how it is without. How do you look at it

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Condoms for 9-15years its definitely a red light, for the 15-17amber and over 18 green. i think whats lacking are educational facilities. These kids and their parents need to be educated. Most of them are abused and the parents dont do anything about it. Surely sleeping with anyone in that age range is statutory rape and should never be encouraged, instead we should be finding ways of dealing with this type of immorality. The government should invest more in education and child protection. The future of our nation lies in the hands of these kids.


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I am thinking of our children with HIV and not AIDS and I believe there is so much we can do about it from the research results perspective.AIDS still remains controversially incurable and has lost the world.

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Sometimes i wonder why some people do not accept facts for life. our children start having sex at very tender age. You will find some people cant accept that. sex education to these kids will be better for them to understand their sexuality, anatomically and physiologically which can let them understand the consequences of having unprotected sex with multiple partners and the use of condoms. some beliefs, Ignorance and illiteracy rates in the sub sahara have contributed much to this scourage. eg. Kutchotsa fumbi, mind set yoti condom imakakamira ku ujeni then imapha nzimayi and prefer to have sex without it zomwe ndi zabodza. Some churches also contribute they encourage abstainance but in the end the end sleep with wives, husbands, school children, widows, boys and girls in the name of Jesus without a condom. If condom information is provided to Kids in the early stages I am very hopeful that that it will save them. Lets go for facts of life. Sex is a normal thing and its the last thing every one think at the end of the day unless you have it a normal way

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you should know that condoms markets in sub sahara have dwindled, elderly pipo have reduced sex outside marriages and this have left the choice to young ones who have increased.I would therefore urge govnmts to target the youth in messages of HIV rather than encouraging them to have sex.

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How do govts encourage sex Pope? I dont get you there.

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Olangiza alangiza aliyense wamva zauthenga wa edzi.Zili kwa aliyense kutenga edzi kapena kupewa.Ndalama zomwe akupangila ma programme a edzi kulibwino apezele zina zochita ngati kumangila ma school,kuthandiza anthu a cancer chifukwa zinazi ndi nkhutukumve.



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As if teaching the children witchcraft is not enough, now you want to give them condoms?? Oh Pleeeaase!!!!! Leave The children alone. These things are taught in schools, Jandos etc.

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bingiza wrote:

How do govts encourage sex Pope? I dont get you there.

the govnmt should sensitise youths about the dangers of HIV than selling the condoms.



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Nanga popeza the youth are the ones who are very sexually active. Ndiye azingopanga ma boilo( nyama kunyama) without the shield, then they wiil all disappear.

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rawn wrote:

Nanga popeza the youth are the ones who are very sexually active. Ndiye azingopanga ma boilo( nyama kunyama) without the shield, then they wiil all disappear.

you are right but, they can still abstain better than men.



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Inde the youth are active but not a nine years old kid. I dont think
mwana wa nine years should be exposed to condoms azitani nazo
azipopa zi ballon?
The best thing is anawa tizikhala nawo most of the times let them feel free
when we are around. free so that they can ask anything
pamene akukaikira. and we should tell them the truth

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You never know till you have tried. They will try whatever they will learn. Armed with a condom, they will conquer the whole world recklessly. Oooh poor kids, they will die young because the will definately one day try without a condom.

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In other countries it can be possible but pa chimalawi its very difficult. Just think of how hard it is to pronounce the word penis in chichewa, vigina in chichewa, testis in chichewa or tumbuka. Its very funny to see a teacher proudly and loudly demostrating to pupils how a penis function but failing to explain in the vernicular language. Unless our society accept that these Chewa words which they think are obscene are just names given to body parts e.g. nose ndi mphuno mwina every one can understand. Can anyone justify why a condom is known as mpira wa abambo. This can easily confuse our children with the usual mpira they play with daily.

We Africans tinanyanya kukuluwika thats why we will never be free with our children. Even sexual intercourse is also known as Kugonana, kupsyulula mpoloni, kutola nkhunguzu, kupukuta mfuti, kukolola nandolo, kugundana, kuthyola nkhwani in order children sadziwe. all this was done to avoid the name kuchindana which is a normal word which we all know.

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If all the members here declare the age at which they had the first experience we would all die of shock.

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Ha ha ha ha kunena mwa tchu tchu thchu eti????

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lets start with you Bingiza

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I notice that there are two seperate issues here. Providing condoms, and Sex education.

I do support the idea that we need to introduce sex education at a reasonably early age - mwina 10 years. Of course there are some obstacles as suggested by Rawn which need to be overcome. Though it may initially be difficult for parents and teachers, the benefit will be massive in terms of the lives served. Some years ago, there was a campaign called "Why Wait?" which targetted school  children encouraging them to abstain. I wonder what happened to that programme.

Providing condoms is a non-starter and will face a lot of resistance from our culturally sensitive societies.

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Teen sex or whatever sexual experience amongst children honestly with osme heretical truth in all probability it is no fun at all and lets be serious and discuss issues. Why do we tend to have sex potrayed to our children as somehow irresistible, so seductive that you might as well get on with it and just do your best to escape any consequences. The reality of child sexual experience is usually disllusionment , and perhaps Bingiza should try telling them that than narrating his childhood .........

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Its very funny to see a teacher proudly and loudly demostrating to pupils how a penis function but failing to explain in the vernicular language. Unless our society accept that these Chewa words which they think are obscene are just names given to body parts e.g. nose ndi mphuno mwina every one can understand. Can anyone justify why a condom is known as mpira wa abambo. This can easily confuse our children with the usual mpira they play with daily.

We Africans tinanyanya kukuluwika thats why we will never be free with our children. Even sexual intercourse is also known as Kugonana, kupsyulula mpoloni, kutola nkhunguzu, kupukuta mfuti, kukolola nandolo, kugundana, kuthyola nkhwani in order children sadziwe. all this was done to avoid the name kuchindana which is a normal word which we all know.

and you have also tried hard to put us mmasamba.




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Thanks Eetchef for bailing me out, i realy think the onus is on us to educate the now generation about the horrors of sex if taken lightly, my uncle (RIP) used to tell me that the diseases today are more complicated and incurrable unlike in their days so we and the younger generation better watch out and heed to advice.

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Likadakha kale bwezi ndikukutumula ma boilo kumangoopa zindoko, mabomu ndi zizonono koma now a days eeeh! ndi moto

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rawn wrote:

Likadakha kale bwezi ndikukutumula ma boilo kumangoopa zindoko, mabomu ndi zizonono koma now a days eeeh! ndi moto

thus why AIDS came in,to check on pipo like you.Even the Bishops have reduced the pace.



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Maybe we can lead by example. This time when I go to my village, I will gather all the 9year+ olds ards in my hood and try and teach them about sex. My eyes were opened recently when my 10 year old niece was raped by a 20 year old man. She did not say anything because she was threatened. what makes me really angry is because the guy is a close relative the parents have decided to let him go scotfree. I am respected in my hood and I hope I will be able to strike a deal with the villagers and the chief to teach these kids if they cant do it. Wish I had done it sooner.

-- Edited by Temwachi at 16:57, 2007-03-29

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You will be beaten up my friend, the moment you will talk about it, its still a taboo to them, unless they villagers change their mind set

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when you say children, what age groups are you appealing to? if prevention is to be championed, condoms must not be sold to children under the age of 16,if this is processed in our constitution these children will be protected.not all of them but a majority of below 16.once these children know that there is more to live for than to die for.

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rawn wrote:

In other countries it can be possible but pa chimalawi its very difficult. Just think of how hard it is to pronounce the word penis in chichewa, vigina in chichewa, testis in chichewa or tumbuka. Its very funny to see a teacher proudly and loudly demostrating to pupils how a penis function but failing to explain in the vernicular language. Unless our society accept that these Chewa words which they think are obscene are just names given to body parts e.g. nose ndi mphuno mwina every one can understand. Can anyone justify why a condom is known as mpira wa abambo. This can easily confuse our children with the usual mpira they play with daily.

We Africans tinanyanya kukuluwika thats why we will never be free with our children. Even sexual intercourse is also known as Kugonana, kupsyulula mpoloni, kutola nkhunguzu, kupukuta mfuti, kukolola nandolo, kugundana, kuthyola nkhwani in order children sadziwe. all this was done to avoid the name kuchindana which is a normal word which we all know.
  Rawn,
 you are quite right, its a problem again with the way we respect our culture and tradition even worse the way we were brought up. We couldn't freely talk to our parents when for the first time saw the signs of puberty and thereon. And this lives in us, so its a taboo to mention the names in our vernacular, they sound very strong than in muchingelezi (muchizungu).

The elders will say " mwana azelezeka uyu"



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How I miss the four corner stones, kumvera, kukhulupirika, umodzi ndi kusunga mwambo. I bet you that almost all of you were brought up under these four corner stones. And if it was not for that we could u have been now. Ma condom kwa ana does do you know how many people are dying here kwathu kuno ku Malawi and condoms are being advertised everywhere still Aids is spreading ma orphans ali bwee. People nowadays are saying aliyense panopo ali HIV+ and good people I think one will only understand what being HIV+ is like when your loved one has tested HIV+. Masewera tiyeni aMalawi timvere we can make it makamaka ife amene tinakulira mu nthawi ija amene ali maborn free. Let us teach each other, help each other, understand each other and also I think there was a saying in those day called Mmera Mpoyamba which really had a meaning sindingathandize ana anthu, ana a chimwene or asisi or azakhali or amalume zinapita kuti zonsesi a Malawi. Am not trying to say that in those days kunalibe mimba or abortions koma at least there was some kind of fear. Or I can say fearing God just to put it in the way I know better. Kodi anthuni kulakwika kumulangiza mwana?  Sex education yake yotani tidziwauza kavalide ka condom hiiiiiiii abale.  Anthu tikusewera ndi chilengedwe anthu inu simudzidzagona ndi ana anu inu?????  Remember you learn by practice ndiye kuphunzitsako adzidzayesera ndani???

-- Edited by Nanchesi at 17:43, 2007-04-01

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No wonder titha tonse Nanchesi..

I dont understand why we Malawians fail to say a single honest phrase on important issues that affect our survival like this one. Why do we wish to luxuriate in false pretence that sexually active teenagers are a matter of serious concern within our societies today?. During our primary and secondary school years , informal or formal school-based sex education was designedfor the sole purpose of delaying the initiation of sexual activity. (remember amatiuza kuti akazi amaotcha?)And we were behaving positively towards early sexual acts despite dark spots here and that.

Now, today with a lot scientific research around as regards HIV/AIDS, there seems to be a growing consensus that these same schools can play an important role in providing youth with a knowledge base whichmay allow them to make informed decisions and help them shape a healthy lifestyle hence the idea of introduction of condoms. As a matter of fact , its true to say that the school is the only institution in regular contact with a sizable proportion of the teenage population with virtually all youth attending it before they initiate sexual risk-taking behavior.

 

In this respect , thats how we wish to break all the cultural barriers that we have had and say here is what we call a condom and not mpira wa adadi.. Conservatism , and cultural values yes they are our identity but we need to deflate a bit coz this HIV/AIDS best diet is our same unchallenged customs and cultural values.Yes,  I agree to a certain extent about the negative effect of introducing condoms to our children but  we have reached at a stage where by kulibe zoti akuuze ndi a neba. Of course, although abstinence-only and safer-sex programs differ in their underlying values and assumptions regarding the aims of sex-education, both types of attitudes strive to foster decision-making and problem-solving skills in the belief that through adequate instruction adolescents will be better equipped to act responsiblyin the heat of the moment. Sexual acts is a beauty and who doesnt wish to pluck and taste the fruit? Ana amakonda zinthu zokoma , and you know that and they will always get it no matter what ...

Lets not lose it , we are the future past of our children and lets talk HIV/AIDS and build a better tomorrow for everyone without strings attached.

Yes ,even though abstinence is a valued outcome of our countrys school-based sex-education within the HIV/AIDS curriculum , what seems to be the natural mystic blowing into the air is that the effectiveness of such interventions in promoting abstinent behavior is still FAR FROM SETTLED .

Ana athu ayidziwe condom basi , tafika poopsa pilizi chonde makosana, lets talk HIV/AIDS

-- Edited by eetchef at 02:39, 2007-04-02

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