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COPIED FROM THE DAILY TIMES ONLINE EDITION(23 JAN 2007)

NGO advocates for homosexuality
BY Frank Namangale
02:14:51 - 23 January 2007

A local NGO, Centre for the Development of People
(Cedep), is unhappy with some sections in the Penal Code of Malawi that
criminalise homosexuality and wants them repealed.

But Attorney General (AG) Jane Ansah said in an interview Monday that what
Malawi has is a law that could be changed by Malawians themselves if they
wanted.

“If Malawians say this is what they want, it will be so, but I cannot say what
government’s stand is. Malawians speak through national constitutional
conferences,” Ansah said.

The Blantyre-based NGO, in a press statement that appeared in The Daily Times
of Monday headlined ‘Gaps and areas of inconsistency in the Constitution and the
Penal Code of Malawi’, says some sections are fatally responsible for
government’s failure to fully implement the National Aids Policy Provisions.

Cedep says sections 153 and 156 of the Penal Code target any conduct or forms
of behaviour that are not heterosexual.

“It should be observed that the sections do not draw a line whether or not such
practices happen in private or in public or those involved are consenting adults
or not.

“As a type of law, its distinctive mark is that it adopts a technique that is
essentially condemnatory and authorises the use of violence against citizen and
the deprivation of certain rights and freedoms,” reads the statement.

But according to Ansah, who stressed that it was her personal view, every law
has got background, citing the right to privacy law, which she said came against
the opening of people’s mail and taping telephones conversations.

“The issue of homosexuality was never discussed at the national constitutional
conference. If they say homosexuality is done in private, how come people know
about it? Nowhere in the world do people have sex in public, but sex still takes
place,” said Ansah, stressing that was her own opinion as a human rights expert.

The statement by the NGO says the decision to criminalise conduct of other
forms of behaviour should have a principled and rational basis.

“By the way, is it the State’s business to dictate to its citizens how to play
sex and with whom? And why should people be sent to jail merely for their unique
sexual orientation in circumstances where what they do does no harm to anyone,”
it reads.

It says by criminalizing sexual practices between two consenting adults in
private, the offences were a serious threat to the citizen’s constitutional
rights to privacy, dignity and freedom of association.

The sections, the statement argues, empower the State to violate the rights of
its citizens to privacy under the guise of enforcing morality.

Cedep recommends to the Malawi Law Commission conducts a comprehensive review
of penal statutes to determine whether the criminal offences they create are
consistent with constitutional and international human rights standards.

The Commission, reads the statement, should be guided by principle rather that
populist rhetoric in which prejudice against non-conformism masquerades as
public morality and so called cultural values.

Cedep’s operations manager Gift Prapeace said in an interview yesterday they
would shortly write to Malawi Law Commission on the matter.

Few years ago Malawi Human Rights Resource Centre (MHRRC) urged Malawians to
debate whether to legalise homosexuality or not, citing the same reasons that it
impedes on the citizens’ human rights, but their call was met with condemnation
from the general public and religious community.





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Then we lament about our culture?

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Culture my buttocks!

Since when has sex been an aspect of culture? Any culture.

As long as culture does not determine 'how' to have it, it should meddle in "who" to have it with - provided both parties are consenting adults. The matter is basically a human right one. Homosexuals should be given the same rights as heterosexuals and not fear criminalisation.

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abre les ojos wrote:

Culture my buttocks!

Since when has sex been an aspect of culture? Any culture.
As long as culture does not determine 'how' to have it, it should meddle in "who" to have it with - provided both parties are consenting adults. The matter is basically a human right one.



 

This is Malawi we are talking about where everything is associated with 'culture'. We both know its a basic human right but what of our nation? Aint it sad??!

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How can homosexuality destroys a culture?

What is culture? Specifically Malawi culture. And what aspect of this culture is going to be destroyed if homosexuality (that exists in Malawi already) become decriminalised.

If there is any aspect of any culture that goes against human rights - human rights should come first. That should be the standard of humanity.

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abre les ojos wrote:

How can homosexuality destroys a culture? Specifically Malawi culture. And what aspect of this culture is going to be destroyed if homosexuality (that exists in Malawi already) become decriminalised.

If there is any aspect of any culture that goes against human rights - human rights should come first. That should be the standard of humanity.



 

Mwian way of life (culture) is of having straight couples.Human rights are damned.

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What are you talking about. There is homosexuality in Malawu today. There has always been and there would be tomorrow.
There are so many practices that were Malawi culture that have been taken over by human rights and whether we like it or not homosexuality would eventually become one of them.
The challenges to homosexuality of course are basically from the religious establishment. Christianity is not Malawi culture. Going to a building every Sunday to worship a white man from Isreal is not Malawi culture - and that has undermined Malawi culture certainly more than any amount of having sex with the same sex person would or could ever do.
You would disagree of course because you are a chrsitian yourself. 

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Then why do you think its always been swept under the carpet? Freakish isnt it?
Now we worship a white man, huh? Funny, could have fooled me. Didnt i read otherwise?
Homosexuality has always been there in Mw but ever asked yourself why its still like the dark ages when it comes to fully embracing it?

Yeah, that will be the day when i see gay couples in Mw show affection openly and go Mwaaaa on the lips to each other in public! Not shocking, eh?


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You might not be able to imagine it but think for a minute.
20 years ago women in Malawi could not wear mini-skirts - the idea was inconceivable. Even in the most liberal western countries like Holland it was far from acceptable 50 years ago. Not anymore.
Attitudes get challenged and people change.
A few years ago you couldn't even discuss or imagine that there would be a challenge to the system by an NGO in matters concerning homosexuality. That is certainly a step forward.
I am actually worried about your attitude towards gays YTP. I was mistakien to believe that you were of a more liberal disposition on matters sexual.
Oh, but you worship Jesus.... So I guess you cannot. Really...

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I am a realist Abre plus all that you thought me to be. Thus, i dont bury my head in the sand and pretend. That was clothes which in this case were mundane. Even now one hears s******s 'Alendo' when a lady wears a mini skirt. We are talking about sexual openness here of which just the mention of the word 'sex' itself is still taboo to the average Mwian so how about homosexuality?

Observing is what i do best and trust me, i cant wait to see the day when Mw transforms. Then comes same sex parents in 4070!!

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You'll be surprised how attitudes can change with a single generation. How malleable human opinion really is.
You might call yourself as realist, but your attitude towards it is largely homophobic. We really should be challenging the right to free sexual congress - provided both parties are consenting adults. And why not. Gays are people too aren't they?



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Yeah, thats why i mentioned the year 4070!

Homophobic? Lol! I would fight for my rights as well if i was gay but i aint bovered!

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I am enjoying your opinions guyz (YTP & abre les ojos). Im following it quite well. There is sense in what YTP is saying though there is also a little sense is abre les ojos nonsense. abre, are you really a Malawiana or somebody who pretend to be a Malawian.

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Tango wrote:
I am enjoying your opinions guyz (YTP & abre les ojos). Im following it quite well. There is sense in what YTP is saying though there is also a little sense is abre les ojos nonsense. abre, are you really a Malawiana or somebody who pretend to be a Malawian.

 What are you talking about?

My nationality has absolutely nothing to do with being here.

Discrimination (sexual) is becoming a dinosaur - as slavery ecentually became. Or racial discrimination is vastly becoming.

People always hide behind "culture" when confronted with homosexuality. When what they really mean are attitudes or just stupid ignorant prejudices.

There is an old African saying "The very type of person you hate would end up in your family".

Let's fight discrimination even if we don't like the practice that is being discriminated. Let us live and let live and respect people's right to.

Sadly with all the religious sentiment on this forum it is I the atheist that actually is saying so.

Ironic or what?



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I am not surprised that all o you people like this man of the year Abres kumasapota zoti nyasi zilandilidwe mdziko muno. We know here back at home that anyamata mukupeza makobili ndi manyathula. Izi zonse zabwera kwathu kuno chifukwa cha anthu inu a kumanagalande. Aliyense amene akupindula ndi manyathula ali patsogolo kuvomereza izi. ai tiona pamene zithere.zikomo

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I dont understand a thing m'bale iwe walemba. I had a nine in chichewa. I cant decipher a word.

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People dont always 'hide' behind culture on homosexuality.

Tony Blair failed to intervene on homosexual rules in the kids adoption issue raised by the catholic church simply because this is a very sensitive issue even in the Uk. I dont believe for a second that he is scared of the church I bet he could've easily given his disapproval on Jade's racial abuse without second thoughts. Yet Uk isnt anywhere near Mw in any way and the stigma is clearly noticed....then what of poor third world Mw?..

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YTP wrote:
People dont always 'hide' behind culture on homosexuality. Tony Blair failed to intervene on homosexual rules in the kids adoption issue raised by the catholic church simply because this is a very sensitive issue even in the Uk. I dont believe for a second that he is scared of the church I bet he could've easily given his disapproval on Jade's racial abuse without second thoughts. Yet Uk isnt anywhere near Mw in any way and the stigma is clearly noticed....then what of poor third world Mw?..

 



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it is best for the issue to legalised through parliament or a referedum.

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