CEO wrote:

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can i firstly point out that i do not condon terrorism.

my point is that terrorism has taken alot of pressure off the black race.

most governments are concetration on fighting terrorism and that issues of immigration have been put at the back.

when it comes to pipo in different countries we can not denie the fact that they welcome the black community more than anyother.

even on the road we used to be stopped by the police more than anyother race but now this has changed. we dont face any extra scrutiny at airports than lets say someone of asian race. 

i am not celebrating about this but just making a point and i am against any form of discrimination.

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CEO you are one person like the rest "not happy yet happy" the asians you are talking about are being victimised and discriminated agaisnt, i dont think you have a clue of what you are saying its either you are happy or not. Just enjoy that you are not being stopped by the police.

abuhakim wrote:

CEO I take it that you are a  Black person of Christian background. Fella, you could have been singing a different tune if you were a Black person wearing a “Turban and Robe” like me. Some of us are peace loving people, but these folks are out there to victimise us. I also take it that you don’t know what you are talking about. You are supposed to be sympathising with us than to call it a benefit.  

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'Assalamu-alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa barakatuhu'. I feel your pain and anger, but am sure there is a solution to your quandary. Its real hard to deal with this catch-22 situation, because all known terrorists are muslims and their victims had nothing to do with anything, other than being found on wrong place in wrong time -  Innocent pple. Youre not worst victim than the pple who were killed by these muslim brothers. If I fit the description of somebody who took your stereo way, its possible that I might be the one or a relative or just coincident. But the fact that the cap fit, it wont be wrong to take me as a possible suspect. Its human instinct.

Seriously, I wouldnt feel at ease flying in the same plane with a muslim brother of middle east origin. And there is nothing you, me and the muslim brother can do to make me enjoy the flight. I will make sure I dont lose his site. 

You might recall during 'Operation bwezani' that pple were targetting everybody wearing red or green shirts - It was run of the mill to think them as youth leaguers or MYP respectively. I remember one youth leaguer, after being forewarned about mob justice, he didnot have enough time to go change his red shirt, so he took it off and hide it in his pants. But the move wasnt smart enough, because walking without shirt raised suspicion. As the say goes: You can fool some people, but you can not fool all the pple all the time. He got beat.

If you value your freedom and to ease your suffering, here are some of the things you can do:

-Wear your Turban and Robe only at the mosque in the presence of your fellow 'victims'. But remember the youth leaguer story above -  Somebody might be watching who goes in and out of mosques.

-As a christian, one of my goals was to go to heaven, but I figured out that its impossible. Am told the possiblity of a rich man to go to heaven is as slim as squeezing a whole cow through a pin hole, so I counted myself out (I just hope that I will repent before dying). But am a believer and I praise god as any other christian, without real committing myself. You as a muslim, I dont know whats your goals? But you are free to join me. Simplely, quit you religion and be free like a bird and me.

If 'these pple' are targeting muslims, trust me, theyre not gonna stop soon. Am still paying a price for crime committed by one black dude. He stole a nice car.  I cant drive my nice car freely with 'these pple' think am a car thief.

Some how I concur with CEO. He was just espressing the situation. I cannot blame you for the death of all innocent pple who died, because some muslim brothers decided to take law in their own hands. And its true that you guys you have taken pressure off my ass. Zikomo. Let god be the only judge. Ishallah!!

 

-- Edited by firstbendman at 06:48, 2006-09-14

abuhakim wrote:

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Wa alaikum Salamu Firstbendman. Am one of those people who don’t feel ashamed or scared when I put my Islamic attire. I hear some of my brothers are scared of the shoot to kill policy in the UK. Some even change their names from Abdul Rahim bin Ali Saidi to Joseph Banda, so funny and strange! Can you honestly give up the ghost and change your true identity for the sake of the Pounds? Making the hole of the needle smaller and smaller!

 

I praise you for your brave heart. I hope your belief will help you achieve your religious goals (which you forgot to tell me). Trust me, if I  can avoid a bullet on my ass because of attire, I wouldnt hesitate to get rid of it. And am sure the Joseph Bandas will agree with me. Without knowing your religious goals, there is nothing I can say to help you. But remember, the  Joseph Bandas  have their own reasons to live. They will lose or somebody will lose alot, if they die premature because of avoidable causes.

 

Knowing that both the bible and the koran teaches ways of avoiding hell, my hope is that both books will lead as to the promised land. But in case its only one book which is right and you happen to die because of the teaching of the other, then hell will break loose. You gonna end up being very enraged brave man in hell. So its pointless to put your life in danger or die for religious cause. 

 

What if you are in the same plane with Abu Hakim, a peace loving Malawiana Muslim? Can you also keep an eye on him for the rest of the voyage?

 

Youre not a muslim brother of middle east origin!! But I will put you second in line to your middle east brothers, because of your common denomination. Somba ikawola imodzi hypothesis. You can say that its profiling, but these thing happens everywhere and it can happen to anybody.Ask LAPD and NYPD cops. Their ressume was messed up by few individuals in their departments. And you should know better what one hungry pig did to necessiate anger and hate to all pigs around the world from muslim brothers.  

 

You people are not helping the situation at all. You know that the white people are out there to wipe out Islam and dehumanise all Muslims in general and you are just sitting there as if every thing is okey. If you feel like there is some injustice going on why don’t you speak about it, and unite with those Muslims who are blaming the attacks. Instead you keep quite and feel insecure when you are around us.

 

I dont believe somebody is trying to wipe out islam, men -  Its just figment of imagination. Dont you think its your duty as a peace muslim brother to convince your violent muslim brother that there are better ways of communicating or fight injustice other than the use of violence. If you brothers cant fix your own house, how do you expect us to help.

 

How will they differentiate if we don’t protest that not all Black men are hooligans? They see you in a flashy car you automatically qualify as a suspect. They see me in a robe and a Turban I will automatically qualify as a Terrorist.  Lets do something about this.   

 

If a cop target me because am black and there is clear evidence, I will take legal action. But am not gonna bomb his kids school to justify my anger. I agree with you that pple should unite to deal with common enemy or fight injustice, but we should look for peaceful means.

 

Check this link:

 

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/ethicalperspectives/profiling.html

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-- Edited by firstbendman at 06:55, 2006-09-15

i think that u didnt give this a good deal of thought

all am saying is that there has been a benefit out of this terrorism situation

i am against terror of any sort no matter who is doing it and all iam doing is pointing out a matter that many of us can not see or we are afraid to comment on.

i for one do not associate terrorism with any religion coz any one can do it either a catholic budists or afana amafano.

most of what is happening like sept 11 is not terrorism it is PURE AND PLAIN MURDER because u dont achieve anything by killing a 2 year old baby or a 70 yr old pensioner and claim that this is terrorism. for me this is simple murder.

give it aday of thought dont rush to write coz i dont think u have the capabilities to do that

abuhakim wrote:

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Game, i didnt know that they are doing it to preserve the law of Allah. maybe these people are defending themselves and which Arabs are terrorising which black people in their own country?

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Have you heard what is happening in Somalia? Nothing is done during the allocated Islamic prayer times including radios, public tpt and no walking in town if found you are a candidate of a thousand lashes, if you survive (foreigners) will be deported immediatelly.

abuhakim wrote:

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I take it that you are the only one who has heard this

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http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__africa/&articleid=276425

http://chippla.blogspot.com/2006/07/sharia-republic.html

 

I sincerely believe this will enlighten you my dear Prince Abu