Salaam Alleikum, Brother.

I will try to talk to you nicely, GO SIT DOWN, YOU AIN'T GOT NO LIFE. Why are hating on UK folks. You know what, your posting shows like someone who was turned down for VISA and you are trying to venge your frustration on folks in UK who are enjoying life. So what if UNIMA grads are hustling, did they ever ask Malawi govt. for assistance while abroad for their upkeep? If you happen to talk to relatives (real ones not haters like you) who are home for these folks most of them they will tell you about assistance these people send home to support their families hence the hustling. Once again, GO SIT DOWN!!

Later, INSHALLAH!!!!

Reading your post, I can not help but notice that you are a frustrated soul who obviously has never been to UK and are trying to show your anger by being sarcastic.

There are some things folks like you will never understand until you have been there, seen it and done it.  In short, working the types of jobs you have mentioned for most people iis a process or stepping stone that most  people in the western world go through as they are aiming for better things i.e education and it is by no means an end. This includes indigenous people of these lands and their kind of pride is different from the kind of pride you folks back home have.

Why I am even bothering explaining this to you . You wouldn't understand anyway, just know that the UK educated people in Malawi at one point or another had to do odd jobs unless, ofcourse, they were funded fully. Trust me it is no shame at all. It is only a shame when doing these type of jobs is and end and not a means. It is also a shame when you talk about others when you yourself can not afford to go to a superstore and fill a shopping cart with goodies while the people you are talking about can do that on a daily basis.

 

 

 

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Rumour has it that life abroad is becoming tougher by the day especially UK. They say the only people who benefit are those who went there to further their studies, and that they will only enjoy the fruits of the seed that they sow when they come back home. I couldn’t believe my ears when I was told that some UNIMA graduates earn a living by being delivery boys, some even gigolos. No wonder it’s so easy to distinguish between people who went to UK & RSA!  Its time that you come back home fellaz. There are a lot of vacancies. 32 people have been sucked in top government positions since Bingu came into power. Bingu has stopped his Ant-corruption drive and has started a new campaign “Job creation” by unjustly firing people. It’s so simple, all you need to do is to buy a Newspaper and see who has been fired in that week! Then you score yourself a top paying job.

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I knew that you will take this personal! François do you still have that mentality of degrading people of Mangochi? Beside Blantyre, Zomba,Lilongwe and Mzuzu I don’t see any other district “alive” like Mangochi and who said am from Mangochi? Of course I can compare Rands and Pounds it depends how much you earn! Though, that does not mean I earn more, mwina ndine lova mphawi wa chabe chabe. And for the Polisi chasing people, maybe am amongst the lucky ones who know how to run fast and hide.

Brandy1, I don’t hate UK folks, I wouldn’t mind if some-one told me that I live on Mphenembe, Ntapasya, Matowo and Kathaka-Mkazuna and that I live in shacks. As long as it is a fact.

And for New Bies Mean. I did not say that it’s a shame to do those kinds of Jobs. Who knows maybe I clean Toilets for a living. What ever we do, we do it for the Deutschmark. Rawn if you think this is not worth contributing then don’t send a reply.     

Abuhakim M`chawa

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I knew that you will take this personal! François do you still have that mentality of degrading people of Mangochi? Beside Blantyre, Zomba,Lilongwe and Mzuzu I don’t see any other district “alive” like Mangochi and who said am from Mangochi? Of course I can compare Rands and Pounds it depends how much you earn! Though, that does not mean I earn more, mwina ndine lova mphawi wa chabe chabe. And for the Polisi chasing people, maybe am amongst the lucky ones who know how to run fast and hide.

 

 

Well you dont need to tell me you are from Mangochi.Your postings betray you.

you know guys I think you should cut this guy some slack, its his opinion - and it seem like he was truelly asking & not just insulting people for no reason. If its ignorance he has, then lets educate him and not insult him in turn.  2 wrongs wont make the right.

I would like to say he is right being a foreigner  in most countries is hard 7 getting worse. Especially for africans. When you leave Malawi , you realise how much of a back bone you have. Some peope make it, and some dont. Life is hard, but the great thing is that as long as your supporting yourself( or others) other peoples opinions dont count ..or shouldnt. Also as you grow older, or live through life, you tend to do what ever it takes to survive. You gorw up fast in the UK/US b/c you know you need to survive. There are people with masters, bachelors etc that can t get employment, this does not necessarily speak about their character or their worth... the issues that we are facing, educated or not, commonly is one about immigration.

also a lot of the billionares in this world started off working at blue collar jobs & they are proud of it... its a rags to riches story for a lot of folks. In Malawi it seems like people tend to shy away from a poor past, if they are rice later on. In countries like the US, its more common for people talk about it as a measure of their achievement - and thats what drives them - passion and a 'can do' attitude - they know they will have the last laugh...

About the jobs, I know you meant it as a joke (I hope you did) but millions of Malawians cant ome home because they fired 25 people in Govt.  Job creation does need to occur...also it needs to not always be tied up to govt. jobs. Govt is probabyl the biggets employer ,so what about those that dont want to work for govt.? why should they come home? Job creation is key. As much as people love theri country, we need incentives to come home. The willingness is their to help our people, but its 2-way... we want govt to help us as well. Build the roads, build the feild..the people will come.

The Rand dollar pound etc... have varied strengths but std of living is different. South Africas currency may be the weakest of the 3 but the std of living is higher... in the US not many people can affor maid , pools etc.. you need to be living in the "Hills" . In south Africa & Malawi , this is a reality..  IN Malawi though, only a few can attain that std.. you have better chance of getting that out of it.. I hear its expensive in the UK too...but you have to wiegh whats important to you...

so you dress nice... then what ? ... people need to have goals other then looking good and driving in the latest car... but if thats what you want you need to be prepared to work for it. If its by means of pumping gas.. and you buy a mansion from that... good for you. you deserved it.... and deserve it no less then the college graduate. There is not only one path... that part of the reason that Malawians stay poor...living byond our means... So you dirve a mercedes benz but dont have an apt ? Did you really gain something. ? .. why not get that Honda and an apt... living well beyond our means is a problem for some when we go overseas... getting the latest outfits etc.. is nice once in while and if you can afford it... dont let the movies lie to you ,.....the middle class dreams seen in American movies is not avaiable to all... but what seperates countires is really the opportuniy...In Malawi , let face it... there is little opportuniy, and where there is, its availble to the few... and so go to the UK &  your pumping gas to go to school...so what?  the ends will justify the means.. its also not guarateed as someone mentioned, that if you do get a degree the job will come... immigration will still be looming at your door gas or office .... brave is the Master graduate working at a pizza delivery so that his kids or hers can go to better colleges..that is an investment... eat to live dont live to eat....

Fellas,

i think it depends on which side of the fence someone is. I am saying this because for one, unlike Dyomba who some of my colleague are suggesting has never been to the UK, have visited the lands. I once met a fella from here who complained to me that while attending to the washrooms at one train station, a child asked him why he could not get a better job. my friend felt humiliated and told me he would leave next time ha had all his ythings in order. On the other hand, we seem to have folks who will do anything to justify their stay in the UK under the pretext of "a means to an end". fellas lets be able to draw lines between these things. later.