abuhakim wrote:

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Hezbollah I thought you are ant-God. I wasn’t expecting any thoughts from an advocate of Charles R Darwin. At least most of the people believe that these noble scriptures were written tens of decades ago. And the Darwin crap? Just a few years ago. I won’t be deceived by a guy who was born the same year with Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps my great grand father. This folk was a confused lunatic or maybe all scientists in general. We had 9 planets, the next minute we have 8. Wait a minute! There is the other one. We have got 9 again! Most of your theories are based on speculations or contemplations. Lord knows what your son is going to discover, that human beings evolved from futsas!

  

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rawn wrote:

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OOOOOOOH! Some madness at its best.

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Madness? Please enlighten me Rawn.

Abre what is education? I take it that to you education is about sympathising with the Darwin mumbo jumbo. Well am one of those who don’t buy it! You went secular and I went spiritual period

abre les ojos wrote:

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  I just hope when you need medicine for some ailment that is sure to afflict you in the future you go to the Mosque to pray to your Allah and don't go to the hospital.

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Abre, Darwin was a great scientist, it’s only the theory of evolution that I have problem with. Maybe the guy was under the influence of something when he thought we evolved from apes, or maybe they were hallucinations. You know what happens when a person is aging. Any idea what men are going to evolve to? There has to some change some where!

We ask for Allah’s help to make the medicine work, even if it is traditional medicine. Muhammad’s remedies are scientifically proven nowadays. Do you want some tip?    

abre les ojos wrote:

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You are by far the least educated person on this forum. No idea of science or medicine. Poorly superstitious and obstinately ignorant.

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And you are by far the least sane person on this forum. its true a chawa sitinaphunzile koma tinalamulira dziko and i dont need secular education in my life. but be aware that i wont buy your fiction.

NB: get youself a translator for the Chewa i wrote

Abuhakim M`chawa

Ngwazi wrote:

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Abuhakim,

amwene inu should be ashamed of yourself if the above has come from deep down your heart.It is scandalous,shameful and simply despicable that  you sit  in front of your computer and write about such crap.Funny how say you dont need secular education in your life yet you are a product of one.Unless you tell me that you did your education in Kashmir,Kandahar or Lahore in one of those madrassas,you have had that secular education.

I am actually flabbergasted to hear you say that about your own people the Yao chawas.You should be the only one proud enough to shout aloud about your peoples lack of formal education

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abuhakim wrote:

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 You are amongst a small fraction of people who complain about the former Chawa President. People voted that guru for two consecutive terms and they still dig him. We don’t need anthu ozikonda ngati inu in our country. People who are too xenophobic. If M`Chawa is qualified for the office, the only thing that can stop people from voting is tsankho lakolo.

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Mjomba Abuhakim Ali,

Can you tell us which madrassa you did your primary and secondary education?I might be wrong but unless you did your early education out of Malawi I am entitled to believe that you are a product of secular education because I dont remember a moslem primary or secondary school in Malawi pre-multiparty elections.So the onus is on you to prove that you have never had and dont need secular education.

Xenophobic?do you really know what this word really means or it just sounded nice and exotic that you decided to use it?We are talking about Malawians here and I am a Malawian,how then do I become xenophobic?Mjomba,I dont hate any Yao chawas.Infact I dont even hate Muluzi but it would be immoral for me to applaud Muluzis tenure as a success when I know pretty well it was a disaster.Even if I was the only complaining about his mismanagement I would still  have done  so very loudly but unfortunately a lot of Malawians fully appreciate that this  Muluzi guy was leading us to ruins but thankfully he could not continue beyond the two terms as prescribed in the constituition despite his satanic desire to change it.

I make no apologies for saying no uneducated person  will ever rule that country again after the debacle of Bakili.If a mchawa is qualified for office,education wise then depending on the competition I might/might not  vote for him.But if you give me  a reincarnation of Muluzi then I wont even bother about him.So to cut this story short,stop bragging about an uneducated mchawa ruling the country,true yes but it only brings ridicule to the normal and educated chawas as the saying goes nsomba ikawola imodzi...........!!

Never again will that country be ruled by someone like your tribesman in terms of education that is,never!

abuhakim wrote:

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Ngwazi, For the record I did not go to any Madresah. Mwina ndinaphunzila mkhonde. And thanks for the correction sometimes I do forget that you are Malawian. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that you hate a Chawa.   Muluzi and others liberated us from pitiless Alidzi Ngwazi.

 

 Lastly I want to know what is the benefit for kusankhana mitundu kwanuko

 

Abuhakim M`chawa

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Abu,

It seems you still want to pretend that you never had any secular education,I believe somewhere in the Koran,Sura something talks about the evils of lying which you seem to be doing now.Just like you said about your previous love for hip hop before the Sheiks showed you the  real teachings of Prophet Muhammad,you have had secular education and thats the truth.You can pretend as much but you know in your heart that you have had that and osati zonama kuti munaphunzila mu khonde,manyazi ulibe!!

On hating the chawas as a people,I can proudly say I dont.But there is a chawa I dont like and thats Muluzi and unless you tell me that Muluzi represents the chawas and all the chawas are Muluzis then you might have a point.To hate all chawas just because of one stupid guy would be wrong,I have respect for those chawas who have excelled in their fields and continue to do so.Muluzi funny enough and unfortunately does not fall in the category of those people I admire or respect except for his age and not wisdom or intelligence.So if to dislike Muluzi in your opinion is like hating all the chawas then I make no apologies for your myopic and flawed thinking.

Never again will that country be ruled by someone like your tribesman in terms of education that is,never!

abuhakim wrote:

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I must confess, I did a bit of secular just to have some knowledge and learn how to read and write. It is not a priority to me at all. My dream is to farther my Islamic studies and hopefully do masters.

 

Ngwazi, I grew up with people who hated a chawa, and I don’t know what you are denying. The writing is on the wall!

 

Never say never a Chawa might rule again.

 

Abu Hakim M`chawa

 

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Abu,

Now we are getting somewhere,you  have now accepted that you have had secular education though you are still  trying to potray it as insignifant,you can keep how much of the secular education you have had but everyone now knows not to trust you,ndinu mjomba wonama,what happened to that "khonde"education?Anyway good luck with your islamic studies and your aspirations to gain a Masters in that field,we need  educated Sheiks in Malawi and make sure you come back to Malawi upon completion of your studies.

On a mchawa ruling that country again,thats a definite no,no and on that I can say never  without fear or favour and you have Muluzi to thank for that.A Yao will of course rule that country but not a mchawa never,never again and if that makes me a chawa hater in your eyes then be it because I have gone past caring what you think about me,what matters is the truth,tisamaopane kapena kunamizana kapena kunyambitana,mchawa sazalamulilanso dziko la Malawi.

Never again will that country be ruled by someone like your tribesman in terms of education that is,never!!!

abuhakim wrote:

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I bet you on that one! Since you don’t tell me the reason why we will never rule again. There is a possibility that achawa tidzalamulira. Have you noted how many of us are venturing into politics? John Chilembwe anakalamulira pang`onong`ono. Wachiyao wangalusa. Even if you don’t vote for Mchawa but there are a lot of people who would disagree that chawa won’t rule again.

 

Abu Hakim Mchawa

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Abuhakim,

Get this in your head,a mchawa will never rule that country again but a Yao will one day rule.There is a difference between a Yao and a mChawa.Much as most chawas are Yaos,not all Yaos are chawas.Bakili Muluzi is both a Yao and a mChawa and so is Uladi Mussa.However Alfred Upindi is a Yao and so too is Friday Jumbe but both are not chawas,you should know the difference or ask those "khonde"teachers of yours to explain to you the difference between the two.

Never again will that country be ruled by someone like your tribesman in terms of education that is,never!!!

awmygawd wrote:

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Are Chawa & Yao literally two distinct groups? I've always thought that 'Chawa' was a derogatory term for 'Yao' (maybe that's exactly what your point is?). I'm no expert on tribal Malawi, I'll appreciate some clarification.

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awmygawd,

Chawas are the moslem part of the Yao tribe,it is indeed a derogatory term.Chawas are not a tribe,never been and never will and thats why I gave an example of Bakili and Uladi Mussa as being both Yao and Chawa whilst Upindi and Friday Jumbe are Yao but not Chawa,basically you have the christian Yao and the moslem Yao(mchawas).The problem is that Yao as a language has become synonymous with the moslem(mchawa) part of the tribe which tends to potray the whole tribe as mchawas which is very misleading as we know but unfortunately mchawas  form the larger part of the tribe.

abuhakim wrote:

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Ngwazi which part of Malawi do you come from? The last time I checked M`chawa was M`Yao. Like Awmygawd has said, it is Derogatory term used by people like you.

In your analysis I take it that there is a possibility that M`yao will rule and not M`chawa. Remember never say never!

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Abuhakim,

Those "khonde" lessons you had did not help much because of all the people you should know the difference.As said mChawa or achawa in plural is a deragatory term for the moslem Yao. Christian Yaos like John Chilembwe,Friday Jumbe or Alfred Upindi have never been called mchawa because that word is reserved for the moslem Yaos like Bakili Muluzi,Uladi Mussa and Yusuf Matumula.The only problem that has risen is that the Yao language is now mainly associated with the moslem part of the tribe which is the bigger of the two at the expense of the christian minority,but most christian yaos speak the language as well.

A Yao will one day rule that country but that Yao will definitely not be a mchawa,a Mchawa will never rule that country again,that I can say without fear of contradiction.

If you find the term mchawa deregatory,how come you were the first person on this forum to use it?ife tikutsatila zomwe mwini mphika anayambitsatu!!!!

Never again will that country be ruled by someone like your tribesman in terms of education that is,never!!!!

abuhakim wrote:

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i have never heard of such thing that Muslim Yaos are Chawas. you have got all wrong! when i say The Chawas will rule, i just simply generalise (Christian or Moslem) i see from your views that you have a problem with Muslim Yaos when it comes to readership of our country. is it only Bakili you have a problem with or is it all of us?

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Abuhakim,

As said your "khonde" teachers sanakuphunzitse bwino.There is simply no way you can call a christian Yao a "mchawa",no.As far as I am concerned a mchawa ia a moslem yao and those friends of mine who are chawas have confirmed this,khonde lake munkaphunzila liti kodi?