AKHRISTU MUKUTI BWANJI?

NYASALAND · Senior Member

AKHRISTU MUKUTI BWANJI?

game · Guru

i dont want to be a jack of all trades but on this one i will comment,i think its a fiction,one of the cospiracy theories,try to read the HOLY BLOOD AND THE HOLY GRAIL or go to any movie store and get the last temptation of christ,they fall in the same category.the only truth in the whole book could be when the roman catholic portrayed mary magdalene as the harlot and a wicked woman when she was the closest pal of christ.

its so contradictory because the story of lazarus whom jesus woke from the dead happened to be mary's brother,and she is the first woman to visit the tomb on the third day,and on leonardo's last supper painting she is argued to be the one sitting on the right next to christ not john the disciple whom jesus loved.thats my take it could be wrong.

abre les ojos · Guru

The Da Vinci Code is fiction. I don't exactly feel there is solid historical evidence for it. I might be wrong. The Last Temptation of Christ is also a fictional book by Nikos Kazantsakis. As the Jesus story itself is not entirely based on evidence too, one can speculate about it anyway they like. The only evidence is the biblical one, and we know how reliable that is...

Karma Sutra · Member

Only those who know their faith is strong enough should read these books as they can cause alot of doubt. THE DA VINCI CODE, HOLY BLOOD AND HOLY GRAIL,CHARRIOTS Of THE GODS left me with alot of questions but no answers. It took me years to regain my faith but I dont regret reading them. The beauty of faith is that you will not get answers for everything but it is still there.

game · Guru

karma sutra

its not wrong to question,if your faith was shaken that means you had answers,these books portray jesus as an ordinary man especially the last temptation of christ,thats why it outraged alot of christians all over the globe.God is our friend but the roman catholic church misled man by putting fear in the relationship between man and his God so that you dont ask questions.vatican plays politics,its an institution with a religious dimension but its 90% politics so you know what politictians are capable of.

why do you think they recommend the kings james version bible as the best,whats wrong with the rest?

abre les ojos · Guru

Karma Sutra wrote:

It took me years to regain my faith but I dont regret reading them. The beauty of faith is that you will not get answers for everything but it is still there.

Faith.

Strange thing this faith.

The beauty of faith is that it prevents us from knowledge. Or at least states that it isn't necessary. Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits. How convenient that religion would state the claim that faith is a virtue to its followers.

Faith is the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.

Pope · Guru

game wrote:

God is our friend but the roman catholic church misled man by putting fear in the relationship between man and his God so that you dont ask questions.vatican plays politics,its an institution with a religious dimension but its 90% politics so you know what politictians are capable of. why do you think they recommend the kings james version bible as the best,whats wrong with the rest?

I hope it has gone into the wiseman.

Pope · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

The Da Vinci Code is fiction. I don't exactly feel there is solid historical evidence for it. I might be wrong. The Last Temptation of Christ is also a fictional book by Nikos Kazantsakis. As the Jesus story itself is not entirely based on evidence too, one can speculate about it anyway they like. The only evidence is the biblical one, and we know how reliable that is...

who has used your computer???????? or am I hearing the real abre.

abre les ojos · Guru

As much as you underlined my post, you missed the irony of it...

Pope · Guru

Your two first sentences in that post prompted me to analyse and underline the rest of the post.Infact I knew you were not serious hence the doubt if it was you behind the computer.Look abre,the unfortunate part of you being an atheist come with the fact of how you stoop low and argue about everthing in the bible,in you there is someone who is controlling your thinking and that is satan,the evil one.If you had read the sepu posted web with a sober mind you would understand that science is a theory to prove the creation God did.

I wish you read this verse 2Timothy 2 and go to Hebrews 6.We xtians are a selected pipo who by virtue of Gods grace we have come to undrstand the importance of paradise and how we can prepare for it.It was never my making that I realised that theres satan out there who would use pipo and argue about the presence of God,and tactifully use science as the basic proof.What do we learn of Eve,in the garden of eden.what do we learn of Judas Iscariot.

abre les ojos · Guru

Pope wrote:

I wish you read this verse 2Timothy 2 and go to Hebrews 6.We xtians are a selected pipo who by virtue of Gods grace we have come to undrstand the importance of paradise and how we can prepare for it.It was never my making that I realised that theres satan out there who would use pipo and argue about the presence of God,and tactifully use science as the basic proof.What do we learn of Eve,in the garden of eden.what do we learn of Judas Iscariot.

Every other religion believes it too.

Believing in those stories doesn't make them true. I don't know what one can learn from Judas Iscariot or the Garden of eden; because they are nothing but myth. Jewish myth too, not African ones. Had you quoted Malawian myth I could understand...

I read the bible and laugh that people. Actual intelligent people. Well educated ones too. Areprepared to suspend their disbelief just to accept this bollocks as factual - all for the sake of a fantasy like life after death in heaven or fear of hell.

Pope · Guru

Fear of hell,yap....thus why the nasa is there trying to prove in the universe ifever they can find paradise or the kingdom.They forget that inside man there is the spirit and thus God.With Eve,she was tactifully deceived by snake in true sense pipo like you.

Karma Sutra · Member

game wrote:

karma sutra its not wrong to question,if your faith was shaken that means you had answers,these books portray jesus as an ordinary man especially the last temptation of christ,thats why it outraged alot of christians all over the globe.God is our friend but the roman catholic church misled man by putting fear in the relationship between man and his God so that you dont ask questions.vatican plays politics,its an institution with a religious dimension but its 90% politics so you know what politictians are capable of. why do you think they recommend the kings james version bible as the best,whats wrong with the rest?

Actually I love the fact that jesus lived like an ordinary man and did things that ordinary men do. History and science do not give all answers you need. what about the dead sea scrolls, are we still not waiting for something we haven't heard before? There are only two choices, to believe or not. Which church allows people to ask questions about the exsistance of God? maybe you people should start one!!!!!!!!!!!

abre les ojos · Guru

Pope wrote:

Fear of hell,yap....thus why the nasa is there trying to prove in the universe ifever they can find paradise or the kingdom.They forget that inside man there is the spirit and thus God.With Eve,she was tactifully deceived by snake in true sense pipo like you.

You people are unbelievable!

What spirit? Where? How do you know this? Where is the evidence for it? Eve? What are you talking about?

THERE WAS NO SUCH PERSON. HUMANS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LOT LONGER THAN THAT,

Pope, what school did you go to. What did they teach you?

Pope · Guru

it doesnt matter what I was taught at school,thats not a point here.We want to help you understand the true God.

Pope · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

You people are unbelievable! What spirit? Where? How do you know this? Where is the evidence for it? Eve? What are you talking about?

here you are again,useless and unbelieving,at your age you dont know anything about Eve?You remind me about the road to Emaus.The spirit is real and I feel it as you see the result in your lab.Its a process that will lead to such faith,and it has a name like any experiment you may take.Tell me when the world started or aat least who discovered it.

abre les ojos · Guru

LOOK POPE.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU NEVER LEARNT MUCH FROM SCHOOL. OR RATHER HAD AN AWFULLY INADEQUATE EDUCATION.

YOU ACTUALLY THINK, OR BELIEVE THAT THE ADAM AND EVER STORY ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

DESPITE THE PROOF THAT THE EARTH IS MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD (OBVIOUSLY YOU NEVER DID GEOGRAPHY).

SO PLEASE TELL ME (SINCE YOU SEEM TO KNOW SO MUCH) WHERE WAS THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND HOW COME IN 6000 YEARS MAN HAS RESULTED IN SO MANY RACES AND CREED ALL OVER THE GLOBE.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

madongo · Newbie

Akulu Akulu,

Musataye nthawi ndi kukangana ndi Abre. Mukawonetsetsa, this topic was aimed for AKHRISTU and born agains. Abre is an atheist and should have kept quiet. He likes poking his nose into everyone's business.

Pope · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

LOOK POPE. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU NEVER LEARNT MUCH FROM SCHOOL. OR RATHER HAD AN AWFULLY INADEQUATE EDUCATION. YOU ACTUALLY THINK, OR BELIEVE THAT THE ADAM AND EVER STORY ACTUALLY HAPPENED. DESPITE THE PROOF THAT THE EARTH IS MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD (OBVIOUSLY YOU NEVER DID GEOGRAPHY). SO PLEASE TELL ME (SINCE YOU SEEM TO KNOW SO MUCH) WHERE WAS THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND HOW COME IN 6000 YEARS MAN HAS RESULTED IN SO MANY RACES AND CREED ALL OVER THE GLOBE. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

And you got too much school just because you understand the Darwinism.Look here ,the question I gave you is the same you are giving me.If my Adam belief is a hoax,then tell me the first man,or who discovered this world?I did geography,big time....but the argument here is about the issue of being a believer or the Holy spirit and God.Now, about the races,its just the intergration and the migration of the early descendants of Abraham,the attitudes and horizons attributed to what they looked like.So this thing called man started from Eden,if you concertrate on the Roman and Jewish history we may come at par otherwise I see alot of science dominance in you,too much of one self and me is true ism.

abre les ojos · Guru

So you're trying to say that the world is 6000 years old right? Well, you couldn't have done geography and paid attention in class.

ISN'T THERE ANYONE ON THIS FORUM WHO ACTUALLY HAS EDUCATION THAT ISN'T SKEWED TOWARDS BAD RELIGIOUS BELIEF?

I sure am in the wrong place here and I might as well delete my account and spend my time reading something more interesting.

Pope · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

So you're trying to say that the world is 6000 years old right? Well, you couldn't have done geography and paid attention in class. ISN'T THERE ANYONE ON THIS FORUM WHO ACTUALLY HAS EDUCATION THAT ISN'T SKEWED TOWARDS BAD RELIGIOUS BELIEF? I sure am in the wrong place here and I might as well delete my account and spend my time reading something more interesting.

I knew you would die that way.Next time learn not to twist topics under debate thinking you are dealing with uneducated.I would be grateful if you really wont come back as unbelieving harlot.

You have happened to be the last lunatic to hang around.(sorry if I ve injured you)

stick this in your office....."winners simply debates while losers painfully misquotes"

PRECIOUS · Newbie

I think thats very ridecurous and I feel its an abomination to talk about Godly issues in the way you did. Just stay where ever you are and DRINK your beers.Jesus did not marry any woman let alone sleeping with one.Where and on which book, chapter,verse and page in the bible do you read that Jesus married, Magdalene in your case.Man, stop writing about this and don't just believe any book you read.By the way are you a christian yourself?

abre les ojos · Guru

PRECIOUS wrote:

I think thats very ridecurous and I feel its an abomination to talk about Godly issues in the way you did. Just stay where ever you are and DRINK your beers.Jesus did not marry any woman let alone sleeping with one.Where and on which book, chapter,verse and page in the bible do you read that Jesus married, Magdalene in your case.Man, stop writing about this and don't just believe any book you read.By the way are you a christian yourself?

How do you know for sure? And please, none of that "I just know" or "the bible said so" Because the biblical gospels contradict each other over almost everything. So they can't exactly be based on historical fact can they?

Pope · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

How do you know for sure? And please, none of that "I just know" or "the bible said so" Because the biblical gospels contradict each other over almost everything. So they can't exactly be based on historical fact can they?

I thought you would live to your words...........remember the ultimate test of a relationship is to hold hands while you argue.