Mugabe's visit

sepusepu · Senior Member

Mugabe's visit

NYASALAND · Senior Member

I wish to go beyond moral arguments for Malawis acceptancy of Zimbabweans and the legality of President Mugabes honourable visit to the discussion of confronting the pretentions of the new imperialists....AZUNGU. I believe that time has come for we black people to move away from the discussion of a whitemans illegitimate claims to the development of strategies to satisfy and justify those claims. Who said President Mugabe is a dictator? Who told you that Mugabe is killing his own people?They tell us everything and within a split second the whole world is listening to their chorus.But how much truth of what they say is all that we need to know anyway? We would like to know what they dont tell us because all that we hear is what they think is good for our ears. Ask those Zimbabweans , Zimbabweans who are proud to be black and African, they will tell you the truth about Mugabe.Ask those Zimbabweans who havent been brainwashed by a change of status in their passports while in Britain, you shall be amazed. Let Comrade visit Malawi in all truthfulness. Let him open that road. Let the road be named after him. God bless.

>>>>Whats happened to Zimbabwe is enough evidence that the continual intervention by western governments and charities in Africa is compounding political weakness, stifling enterprise and making developing states less accountable to their citizens. Where did Mugabe go wrong anyway?Kuthamangisa Azungu?What was Zimbabwe before then? Of course these whites provided positive assistance in the short-term to Zimbabwe but these whites were fulfilling many of Zimbabwe's legitimate functions thereby weakening their own accountability. We want Black power , and thus what we are.Forget about comparing Zim to South Africa. <<<<Why do you want to think that Zimbabwes problems are of Mugabes own making ? Dont you see Zimbabwe having relied so much on effective run by the British government, multilateral organisations, companies and international NGOs needed a change of order of things? Its all about trying to get a balance ,a fundamental building block to make progress within black empowerment. Ife anthu akuda. Oh waht aHERO

game · Guru

true comrade nyasaland,for once i strongly agree with you.we need black power,we need to identify our own problems,i support mugabes visit to nyanjania and let trade flourish between these two countries without whiteman's intervention.mugabe is the revolutionary,thats why the west want him beheaded,look what america did to fidel and cubastro,they destroyed him economicaly but managed to bounce back like round ball,thats what mugabe will do,just give him time.

lets demostrate the obvious truth that the quality of an economicaly advanced africa depends on blacks not whites with motives to pollute and exploit,its time to dig him a grave and throw him in"the white man",africa for africans no matter the predicament.its time for africans to repossess their seats in developing africa,no more whitemans opinion on how to do so,we need to implement this principle effectively and what mugabe did was an experimentation.

abre les ojos · Guru

I agree with both of you in principle. But I have always wondered why it is only us black folks that have to do the black power thing. I mean, I've never heard Indians saying "Indian" power. Or Chinese doing the same.

Maybe it's the victim culture that pervades black society. Or is it the "double-consciousness" that is indicative of our culture - We see ourselves through the eyes of others, or like DuBois said "of measuring one's soul by the tape of a world that looks on in amused contempt and pity".

One only has to look at Hip-Hop to realise that.

On the other hand I am a supporter of Mugabe but I'm also his sternest critic on most of his internal policies.

Mulopwana · Veteran Member

I also agree with all of you. Its time that we take the destiny of our african countries in our own hands. For me Mugabe did nothing wrong. He was correcting the injustice done by the British. Before land redistribution, Zimbabweans were living in rocky areas (mountains) with all the arable land taken by whites. I felt so bad when I saw rural Zimbabwean with no land at all. As africans, we cant isolate Zimbabwe. Thats why Mbeki told the west that he will follow quiet diplomacy as far as Zim crisis is concerned. What the west wanted were sanctions but no single african country was ready to do that. Zimbabwe will bounce back. These people are wicked, you can imagine they already have plans for post Fidel Castro's Cuba. I dont know what plans they have for africa, after the wipe out of african race by AIDS.

game · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

I agree with both of you in principle. But I have always wondered why it is only us black folks that have to do the black power thing. I mean, I've never heard Indians saying "Indian" power. Or Chinese doing the same. Maybe it's the victim culture that pervades black society. Or is it the "double-consciousness" that is indicative of our culture - We see ourselves through the eyes of others, or like DuBois said "of measuring one's soul by the tape of a world that looks on in amused contempt and pity". One only has to look at Hip-Hop to realise that. On the other hand I am a supporter of Mugabe but I'm also his sternest critic on most of his internal policies.

well,i think the indians and the rest of asia have their own way of proclaiming their slogans like iran use the enrichment of uranium without fear of Uk -US based sanctions while other muslim countries use jihad to fight off the invaders which i strongly support.north korea defied orders to stop its nuclear programmes,and africans use black power untill we have someone brave enough to start a controversial nuclear programme.thats my take.

Pope · Guru

As much as I advocate black power,I feel Mugabe is cheating the young generation and deserves an exit.The naming of the road after him and his coming to see his apongozi should not worry us malawians, we should be worried with what we are supporting......an overzealous leader who was a hero and has descended to zero in his own country.

sternb evison · Newbie

game wrote:

Malawians, i wish we were people who could not have had fastly forgoten facts. Was it not the same moya who, at one of his famous addresses,said " who are we Malawians to ignore the foreign policies/conditions imposed by the famous western organisations like the IMF, WORLD BANK and EU, in order to get assistance from them, which Mjomba didn't like and saw us in great debts (both internal and foreign) and inflation on top?

I thought Che Moya would bring us a difference. But look. is it that the corner stone that the builders refuse gonna be fit for our good foundation for the economic development that we all opy for, or solidating his in-lawship or his climbing a step higher, learning from Mugabe how he begun to fool the west, in order to get out of the critisms of his so alleged malpractice of the rule of democracy?

This should be food for thought.

abre les ojos wrote: I agree with both of you in principle. But I have always wondered why it is only us black folks that have to do the black power thing. I mean, I've never heard Indians saying "Indian" power. Or Chinese doing the same. Maybe it's the victim culture that pervades black society. Or is it the "double-consciousness" that is indicative of our culture - We see ourselves through the eyes of others, or like DuBois said "of measuring one's soul by the tape of a world that looks on in amused contempt and pity". One only has to look at Hip-Hop to realise that. On the other hand I am a supporter of Mugabe but I'm also his sternest critic on most of his internal policies. well,i think the indians and the rest of asia have their own way of proclaiming their slogans like iran use the enrichment of uranium without fear of Uk -US based sanctions while other muslim countries use jihad to fight off the invaders which i strongly support.north korea defied orders to stop its nuclear programmes,and africans use black power untill we have someone brave enough to start a controversial nuclear programme.thats my take.

sepusepu · Senior Member

Inflation has gonne up to 900%. People carry money in back packs. A pair of school shoes cost Zim $ 2.5 million. I hope this man has got a plan for his people.
The man is 82 how long does he have to live? Otherwise the average Zimbabwean is paying the the price.
He admited that the problem of food shortage arose because of lack of proper farm training and drought. He has taken Zim to the bottom end on his journey from hero to zero.

sepu

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BrownT · Newbie

Mugabe has no problem let him come after all when the former president shouted at the D. NGO he could still visit other countries who had cordial relationships with D.Those countries knew it was between him and D, private problems between two sovereign countries.It is the same thing with Mugabe and Europe,typical of private fracas which doesnt concern Malawi as a sovereign state.What if Mugabe and Britain reconcile and you have stoped Mugabe from coming to Malawi what will you say to him.Remember he is your next door neighbour! I say come Mugabe and join the opening ceremony of Midima! Dance with the Chewa,Lomwe and go back tell Malawians in Zimbabwe we love them!!!!!!!!!

Pope · Guru

BrownT wrote:

Mugabe has no problem let him come after all when the former president shouted at the D. NGO he could still visit other countries who had cordial relationships with D.Those countries knew it was between him and D, private problems between two sovereign countries.It is the same thing with Mugabe and Europe,typical of private fracas which doesnt concern Malawi as a sovereign state.What if Mugabe and Britain reconcile and you have stoped Mugabe from coming to Malawi what will you say to him.Remember he is your next door neighbour! I say come Mugabe and join the opening ceremony of Midima! Dance with the Chewa,Lomwe and go back tell Malawians in Zimbabwe we love them!!!!!!!!!

The problem is not the coming but the thing called Mugabe,the obsolete african hero.He has made a shame of himself that it would just cost our image to associate with.If his coming will help the suffering zimbabweans,then good and fine.What I dont understand is what will be his speech......I will keep ruling until I die, though old soldiers never die am told.

On a lighter note; please Bingu,put some sense into this man called Mugabe,am told he will spend most of his stay close to you.Adsvise him the need to step down quickly and restore his lost glory.I love Zimbabwe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!