AZIMAYI

Chitty · Newbie

AZIMAYI

YTP · Guru

Chitty wrote:

Chonde chonde chaka chatsopanochi mulele kunja kuno kwayipa enanu mungoswa ana ngati nkhuku kodi ndi bizimisi kapena kufuna amuna akukwatileni?ana awiri olo atatu ndi azibambo osiyana sichinthu cha nzeru.Amunafe ndife anthu ozama sitifuna mkwazi wabalala.

As much as azimayi are the ones who give birth, i believe you well know that it takes two and we have all forms of contraceptives so this should be addressed to both dudes and shodys.

Kunjo kuno kwaipadi and i shudder to think of what the picture will be like in two yrs time. We dont care who we sleep with these days even if we know who our partners hav slept with; regardless of reputation and promiscuity.

abre les ojos · Guru

Ok, maybe I don't get it but it strikes me like Chitty is being self-righteous here. so damn what if people do these things. People, provided they are adults have the right to sleep with whoever they want to whenever they want to. You know why? Because they can.

About children. Isn't that what we do best as a species. Erm, have kids?

Chitty · Newbie

Iwe abre kafucheche apanso pali nkhani yoti sukumva?ngati kwanu mumagona ndi aliyense ndi konko.Okumva wa ndithu zitselekwetenu kalankhulani.

MISS THANG · Senior Member

It was said tibelekane ngati nchenga!

abre les ojos · Guru

MISS THANG wrote:

It was said tibelekane ngati nchenga!

Couldn't have said it better...

firstbendman · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

Ok, maybe I don't get it but it strikes me like Chitty is being self-righteous here. so damn what if people do these things. People, provided they are adults have the right to sleep with whoever they want to whenever they want to. You know why? Because they can. About children. Isn't that what we do best as a species. Erm, have kids?

Iwe!!!!

You might be right to say that pple as adults have the right to sleep with whoever they want to whenever they want to. Its a choice not right. Yes, life is full of so many choices. Bad and good choices. When we are making a choice, we look at risking factors, the impact on our life and the benefits. Most of the times we try to avoid bad choices. Why? Because theyre costly. In my living memory, I have never heard anybody proud of making bad choices. I have never heard makolo to their kids: Simungakhale ngati awuje, he/she makes bad choices.

One of the reasons we are here on this folum, is to help and advice each other on how to avoid making bad choices. This is where Chitty and YTP are coming in. They have come up with their advice. And its your choice to take it or leave it. But remember, in life, we will always be judged by our choices.

As pple move from infancy to adulthood, they still need guildance/advice from family and friends, so that they make good choices. Because, not all adult, make good choices. I remember my uncle, Uncle Chimbolo Munthali, he was caught pick pocketting at bus stage. He was beaten so bad. In pain he told me how he wish he was dead. He was 48. There he was paying the price of his choice. He chose the wrong one.

The worst price you can pay for a bad choice is your life. As far as I know, nobody wants to die. When we are pick up a bad choice, pple will sometimes say: who cares tonse tidzafa. Boodza!!!. Take it from my aucle. Although he told me that he wish he was dead, but he was responding to hospital treatment accordingly - Like taking right dosage in timely manner, therapy etc. Simunthu wofuna kufa ameneyo. Even mnyumba mwa hule, umapeza zimankhwala zamitundu-mitundu wothandizikila. Have you heard of a story about this one dude, who wanted to commit suicide, but ended up kuthawa atawona mkango. Why?

Miss Thang came up with a good line from the bible:It was said tibelekane ngati nchenga!. But can you afford to take care of the nchenga? If you cant, then pali vuto. I had the same belief too, but I changed my mind, after my second child. Timabvuto tinangena munyumba. I dont even find my wife attractive any more - dzimakanda ntchembele (stretch marks) everywhere. She tried doing sit-up, koma kuti? Mimba ili uko. She has never said it, but I know she hate me and my two beautiful kids. We have a rule in our home: TURN OFF THE LIGHTS BEFORE UNDRESS, PLS.

The choice is yours iwe Abre.

Ndine wanu

-- Edited by firstbendman at 06:09, 2005-12-31

abre les ojos · Guru

I cannot begin to start to tell you how flawed your argument is as I've sadi before you just seem to go on and on without actually making a point. Could you at least exercise some brevity and get to the point.

As we all have choices i guess that os yours - being a tad boring about little things...

firstbendman · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

I cannot begin to start to tell you how flawed your argument is as I've sadi before you just seem to go on and on without actually making a point. Could you at least exercise some brevity and get to the point. As we all have choices i guess that os yours - being a tad boring about little things...

There we go again. I thought I was simplifying things for you, but you either chose not to listen or simplely just being dumn. If you remember in one of your postings, you asked for facts and evidence - Thats what youre getting here. There is no way you can get facts/evidence in a single statement.

The reason why you dont like my postings is because you hate me. And you hate me because I agree with Ayats most of the time. The other problem is when am debating/discussing/arguing with you, I always bring facts, evidences, examples etc on the table, which makes it hard for you to maneuver. Thats why you always come with questions like: What do you mean? even though you know the answers. I try to make the argument short. Lesson to you: Dont hate zovala zomwe anavala wakuba podzakubela. Hate wakubayo and what he did to you

I like your approach, though. You always come hard as if you gat game or gat something good going. Kenako umangoti zee, without trace. You hark me back of my SA days. One day I was watching a boxin match between Babe Jake and this other dude. In the first three rounds, the dude was so aggressive that pple thought Jake was gonna get beat. Come fourth round bell, the dude refused to go back in the ring. He was like you dont know what this guy (Jake) is doing to me, telling his coach in him mother language. When I watched the tapes later, I saw why his guy didnt wanna go back in the ring. Amachitidwa khanza. Another lesson: Munthu wanzeru samanyela mchimbudzi mulibe tissue or samayambitsa ndeu akudziwa kuti aluza.

For the sake of your dumn ass, I will expain to you what I am trying to say. Although as adults we are free to make any choice, some choices like chiwelewele etc are bad and can lead to death and nobody wants to die. Had I said this the first time, you could have come with all sorts of irritating questions. Prolonging the whole discussion. Are you happy now?

By the way, my Uncle is saying hie. Remember him? Uncle C. Munthali. He is back at home and he is doing fine.

-- Edited by firstbendman at 21:18, 2006-01-01

abre les ojos · Guru

Do you always have to write all that garbage in order to refute or challenge or debate what is essentially a less than important topic.

I find it very difficult to argue over petty things as such - unless of course with Ayats who although I find mildly annoying is at least more articulate than yourself.

Well, I don't hate you (don't flatter yourself). You don't even register enough on my radar to hate or to even like...

firstbendman · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

Do you always have to write all that garbage in order to refute or challenge or debate what is essentially a less than important topic. I find it very difficult to argue over petty things as such - unless of course with Ayats who although I find mildly annoying is at least more articulate than yourself. Well, I don't hate you (don't flatter yourself). You don't even register enough on my radar to hate or to even like...

Well,well,well. Am glad that youre still here. When you disappear prematurely, you always hurt my feels. Aluta kontinyuwa. I am happy, you have made it to round four.

Here we go. What might appear garbage/nosense to you doesnt mean its garbage/nonse to me (especially from you). And the same, what is insignificant to you might not be to me. The advice which Chitty brought here was important to me, because it involves human life. Anything involving life will always be important to me. If the topic was less important to you, why did you spent your precious time responding to it. We go back to the same issue: Its not necessary to respond to every topic. Dyela akulu. You remind me of fisi wadyela. He gat confused when he saw mbuzi ziwiri at the same time. He figured out that the left side should go for the goat running to the left hand side, while his right part should chase the other one going to the right. The results: He stretched himself to death.

If issues about saving life is not important to you, then whats important to you? Loathing God? Proving that there is no god? I dont think so. Thats just foolhardiness or lack of common sense. You cannot make a case when you dont have facts yourself. There some issues you cannot dispute. If I tell you that my mother is a woman. What arguments can you bring on.

You might find Ayats less annoying, because he has never been hard enough on you. General warning: The harder they come, the more maddening. This is the period you are going through in your life, here on Malawiana. Sudati. And did you say arguing with Ayats? Hell no. Tell me, you meant attacking his character and disputing his achievements. The man is beyond your thinking capabilities. And thats one of the reasons your 'debate' are always droning. You run away from the issue on the table and start attacking the author. You cannot start debating 'fishing in lake Malawi' and end up debating 'why Abre Les Ojos has no brains.' These are two different issues. When you are 'debating', try to go back to the initial posting sometimes for referrence. Simuchedwa kuiwala, bambo.

Lastly, I have never complimented myself, let alone seek compliment from you. A graduate of School of Ridiculousness. The original idiot. When did hate became compliment? Idiot. I still believe somebody, somewhere regrates that he didnt use a condom. If he could turn back the hands of time, he could use it pounding his wife.

My Uncle, Uncle C. Munthali will say chilekeni waka chindele. But sorry, am not listen to my Uncle this time.

Thank you for your time.

-- Edited by firstbendman at 06:25, 2006-01-03

abre les ojos · Guru

So what are YOUR "Facts" about God. And don't quote me some book written thousands of years ago that doesn't have any archeological evidence let alone plausibility.

I don't loathe God. How can I loathe something that doesn't exist except in the minds of fundamentalists and god-botherers like yourself? Lack of common sense? Well maybe you can surprise me with this common sense about the existence of God in terms other than just faith. Open up a debate on that and quit name-calling.

Whatever you chose to call me the fact is that I'm better than you. I am more intelligent, rational, have read more, seen more, been to more places, probably have a better education (I mean that's self-evident) and by every other criteria except level of stupidity I won't doubt that I score more.

I'm proud of my knowledge. I didn't wake up with it. I spend hundreds of hours on books. Read everything from science to philosophy, archeology etc.

You attitude is typical of Malawians - Must be a Kamuzu thing huh? When you have little to say or opinions to display, resort to personal attacks. You might not know Ayats but WE do.

YTP · Guru

AINT WE ALL FORGETTIN' THE TOPIC HERE???? HEH? WHY ARE WE NOW GOING TO PERSONAL ATTACKS WHEN WE SHOULD BE DEBATING AZIMAYI AND THE JOYS OF PROMISCUITY OR SOMEFING ALONG THOSE LINES? ANYWAY, HAPPY NEW YEAR NONSE!!!!

abre les ojos · Guru

Yes of course, the topic at hand was Azimayi. It seriously disgusts me to hear men ranting on about the promiscuity of women. What is it heir business. In fact they should be greatful that women are free to sleep with who they want i.e. more liberated. Some folks would never get laid if not for that. I'm looking forward to a world where women are as dominating and predatory as men have always been in sexual matters.

The truth is probably that they have always been. But are just good at making us men think that we are in charge to feed our ego trips and stuff. I remember a girl I was dating once said to me when I was boasting about how smooth I was in getting with her. She said I was wrong because it wasn't me at all. She "chose" me. She picked me evfen before I started all my moves.

That, as you can imagine humbled me for life. The tactic from then on ways to make myself likeable enough to be "chosen". Needless to say that knowledge has been more successful. Even more so in societies that have more up-front women.

firstbendman · Senior Member

YTP wrote:

AINT WE ALL FORGETTIN' THE TOPIC HERE???? HEH? WHY ARE WE NOW GOING TO PERSONAL ATTACKS WHEN WE SHOULD BE DEBATING AZIMAYI AND THE JOYS OF PROMISCUITY OR SOMEFING ALONG THOSE LINES? ANYWAY, HAPPY NEW YEAR NONSE!!!!

Exactly, the 'debate' has changed direction. If you follow it from the start you will see the turning point. But sometimes, when you see pple are fighting with zikwanje, its wise to pull out you chikwanje too. It will necessitate a fair fight. I will try to put it on track.

Happy new year you too, man.

firstbendman · Senior Member

So what are YOUR "Facts" about God. Open up a debate on that and quit name-calling.

-This is not the issue at hand, go back and read the topic. I was just asking you, if this is the topic which is important you. You said the topic at hand is less important. My posting is still up there, go read it again - sanafute. I know where I stand on god issues and nobody can induce me otherwise. Two parallel lines will meet at infinity. Lets meet there. Tisatayilane nthawi. I chose to believe god is there. Nothing you can do. Lira.

Whatever you chose to call me the fact is that I'm better than you. I am more intelligent, rational, have read more, seen more, been to more places, probably have a better education (I mean that's self-evident) and by every other criteria except level of stupidity I won't doubt that I score more. I'm proud of my knowledge. I didn't wake up with it. I spend hundreds of hours on books. Read everything from science to philosophy, archeology etc. You attitude is typical of Malawians - Must be a Kamuzu thing huh? When you have little to say or opinions to display, resort to personal attacks. You might not know Ayats but WE do.

This junk is out of topic. And dont complain about name-calling, because I was just giving you a dose of your own medicine. May be I gave you too much, but I believe you deserved it. Matendawa ndi akulu. Go back and read the postings on this topic and see who started personal attack.

I find it weird that youre cutting yourself above somebody you dont know. How can you compare box A and B when you dont know whats in one of the boxes. I have never given away my resume to you, let alone, tell you how many places have been to. If you call that intelligency, then youre a whiz kid.

If I can refresh your memory, this is the same issue you have be arguing with Ayats. When Ayats talks about his achievements alakwa, koma your achievements are cool? And now youre coping the his style. Power to Ayats. And when did you know Ayats? Because all alone you have been acting ignorant. Or is it because youre ignorant.

Dont ever mistaken egotistical and divisive to brainpower. Now, do me a big favour. Go back to the initial posting and see where you went off beam. And bring your wiles from there. Otherwise get lost, since you have already indicated that the topic is of less important to you.

Oh! congratuations for 1009 posting on this folum. 1009 times of torture and recur ennui. Go back through your postings and see if somebody ever commented about your intellectual capabilities. Let your posting be the judge.

abre les ojos · Guru

Like I always said. All those paragraphs can easily be compressed to one sentence.

Remember, brevity is the soul of wit....

...And I hate to argue with you. I know that I can be petty sometimes but now I'm just bored...

firstbendman · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

Like I always said. All those paragraphs can easily be compressed to one sentence. Remember, brevity is the soul of wit.... ...And I hate to argue with you. I know that I can be petty sometimes but now I'm just bored...

If youre intellectually gifted, as you made everybody believe, you know what to do. Compressed it to one sentence and reply to it. We have talked about this 'compressing' issue couple times. If you wanna know the answers, they are still on this forum. Go read again, if you want some answers

Hate or bored. I will feel the same, if I was in your shoes. This is no easy meat. Next time, learn to bond to the topic, instead of rerouting to other petty issues. If youre not au fait with a topic, let go it. Do me a big favour, when you are done compressing my posting, could you compress this one to one sentence for me, pls.

abre les ojos wrote:

I am often asked to explain as a biologist why religion has such a hold. The theory is this: When a child is young, for good Darwinian reasons, it would be valuable if the child believed everything it's told. A child needs to learn a language, it needs to learn the social customs of its people, it needs to learn all sorts of rules - like don't put your finger in the fire, and don't pick up snakes, and don't eat red berries. There are lots of things that for good survival reasons a child needs to learn.

So it's understandable that Darwinian natural selection would have built into the child's brain the rule of thumb, "Be fantastically gullible; believe everything you're told by your elders and betters."

That's a good rule, and it works. But any rule that says "Believe everything you're told" is automatically going to be vulnerable to parasitization. Computers, for example, are vulnerable to parasitization because they believe all they're told. If you tell them in the right programming language, they'll do it. Computer viruses work by somebody writing a program that says, "Duplicate me and, while you're at it, erase this entire disk."

My point is that the survival mechanism that makes children's brains believe what they're told -for good reason - is automatically vulnerable to parasitic codes such as "You must believe in the great juju in the sky," or "You must kneel down and face east and pray five times a day." These codes are then passed down through generations. And there's no obvious reason why it should stop.

There's an additional factor in the virus theory, which is that those viruses that are good at surviving will be the ones that are more likely to survive. So, if the virus says, "If you don't believe in this you will go to hell when you die," that's a pretty potent threat, especially to a child. Or, if it says, "When you become a little bit older you will meet people who will tell you the opposite of this, and they will have remarkably plausible arguments and they'll have lots of what they'll call evidence on their side and you'll be really tempted to believe it, but the more tempted you are, the more that's just Satan getting at you." This is exactly what many creationists country have been primed with.

Before I discovered Darwin, I was fascinated by the apparent design and beauty of living things. I knew enough biology to know that living creatures are prodigiously complicated and elegant. They look exactly as though they'd been designed. That was why I believed in a divine creator. Because I had been so persuaded by this argument for design, when I discovered Darwinism, I had a kind of "road to Damascus" experience.

I think there is a serenity that comes from understanding, from being able to solve a mystery. And the bigger the mystery, the greater the serenity. When you think about the diversity, complexity, and beauty of life - the elegance of the apparent design of life - it adds up to a colossal mystery. And the solution, Darwin's solution, is quite remarkably simple. My serenity comes from the satisfaction of seeing a really, really neat, elegant explanation that can explain so much.

Maybe before you condemn Darwin you should actually READ his works and experiments and results. A lot of christians who condemn Darwin haven't actually read him. A lot of religious people who say a particular science theory is bogus haven't actually studied them. You have to know what you are condeming.

If you can deconstruct Darwin's evolution theory and disprove it step by step and offer a clear, argument contrary to it that can actually be verified by EVIDENCE then I'll be willing to listen. But if you simply quote me biblical verses and offer lame threats of going to hell on judgement day - then I'll sit back and laugh at what I know is ignorance on your part.

By the way, are you related to Abramoff or Abra moff. He gonna need your help very soon.

abre les ojos · Guru

Look that was an INTELLECTUAL argument with Game (someone of waaaaaay superior intellect than yourself). Besides the topic was not about rubbish it needed a clear deconstruction.

Go back to high school.

firstbendman · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

Look that was an INTELLECTUAL argument with Game (someone of waaaaaay superior intellect than yourself). Besides the topic was not about rubbish it needed a clear deconstruction. Go back to high school.

I guess you missed the point again. I want you to compress your 'intellectual argument' into a single sentence. The reason I want it compressed is the same reason you want my postings compressed. I never said am intelligent and you will never hear me say that. The only thing, I will assure you is that school siyinandibvutepo. The topic is AZIMAYI. Lets deal with this issue than comparing things we dont know. Ndakudziwa kale, youre trying get help.

Akulu inu munakakhala spaghetti bwezi ali obvuta kudya. Mungoti nKhani kulowelanayo uku kenako uko ngati hule wakupsya. If you gat nothing smart to talk to me kagone. I will excuse you.

-- Edited by firstbendman at 06:24, 2006-01-06

abre les ojos · Guru

See I've completely lost track of what they topic was about. Funny these threads are like live conversations. You start by discussing something then end with a topic that has no relation to the one that started it all. That's life.

Now, where were we?

firstbendman · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:

See I've completely lost track of what they topic was about. Funny these threads are like live conversations. You start by discussing something then end with a topic that has no relation to the one that started it all. That's life. Now, where were we?

Sidzinafutidwe. I will start reading from the top if I were you. Thank you, may be now we can talk.

Mleza · Newbie

Kodi achimbolo munthali amenewa..... anyway go to your private mail box. ticheze kumeneko pang'ono