From:
"Steve Morris" <morris@malawi.net>  Add to Address Book

To:
"Alfred M. Dzilankhulani" <adzilankhulani@hotmail.com>, "Kristof & Stacia Nordin" <nordin@eomw.net>, "Clcom" <freshwater@clcom.net>, "LESBIAN AND GAY MALAWI" <lgmm2005@yahoo.co.uk>, "Malawi Economic Justice Network" <mejn@sdnp.org.mw>, edunetwork@ndi.org, "Agnetwork NDI," <agnetwork@ndi.org>, civsoc-mw@sdnp.org.mw

CC:
nkhomasynod@globemw.net, zombatc@globemw.net, nifcott@globemw.net

Subject:
Re: LOBBYING FOR AMMENDMENT OF PENAL CODE

Date:
Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:05:34 +0200


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Alfred,
The fact that "it is done in the USA or UK" is quite besides the point and is certianly not "the reason it should be done here".
Whether we like it or not the fact remains that there are people in Malawi and all over the world for whom sexual identity is not as straight forward as those whose intolerance has been voiced over this e-mail network would like. I know you would not be surprised to know that "it" is done here. What will also not surprise you is that the vitriol that spouts forth from many so-called christians is causing those fellow human beings untold suffering and is far from charitable. Who then is imposing their views on whom? The mark of a good democracy is how the majority treat their minorities. When people have a choice it is a free society. This society is far from free. I do not support this lobbying because they are gay but because they are a minority who wish to live their lives and contribute to the good of society - just like the rest of us - but are persecuted for daring not to conform to a warped and intolerant "norm".
I know this will not be a popular message in Malawi's secretive, suspicious and judgemental society but one day such attitudes will have to change. I will throw your quote back to you "..........and are known and valued by all"
Steve Morris,
Humanist/Atheist/Call me what you like ...a Least Square ...but by Malawi definitions certainly not a Christian

----- Original Message -----
From: Alfred M. Dzilankhulani
To: Kristof & Stacia Nordin ; Clcom ; LESBIAN AND GAY MALAWI ; Malawi Economic Justice Network ; edunetwork@ndi.org ; Agnetwork NDI, ; civsoc-mw@sdnp.org.mw
Cc: nkhomasynod@globemw.net ; zombatc@globemw.net ; nifcott@globemw.net
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: LOBBYING FOR AMMENDMENT OF PENAL CODE


Off couse I know alot of people on the e-mail group that are doing wonderful work developing this country.  I have been around long enough and read Malawi historical heritage to know the limits, at least in this Country. The fact that it's done in USA or UK or wherever is no reason it should be done here.
 
I rarely agree with HE Robert Mugabe, but I certainly agree with him when he calls "homosexuals less than dogs" at least dogs know the opposite sex
 
Tommorrow, I will be presenting my counter-lobby to the same MPs.
 

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Alfred M. Dzilankhulani
P.O Box 925
Lilongwe
Malawi
Central Africa
 
"The method of Least Squares is the automobile of modern statistical analysis; despite its limitations, occasional accidents and incidental pollution, it and its numerous variations, extensions and related conveyances carry the bulk of statistical analysis, and are known and valued by all" Stephen M. Stigler, Gauss and the Invention of Least Squares

----- Original Message -----
From: Kristof & Stacia Nordin
To: Clcom ; Alfred M. Dzilankhulani ; LESBIAN AND GAY MALAWI ; Malawi Economic Justice Network ; edunetwork@ndi.org ; Agnetwork NDI, ; civsoc-mw@sdnp.org.mw
Cc: nkhomasynod@globemw.net ; zombatc@globemw.net ; nifcott@globemw.net
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: LOBBYING FOR AMMENDMENT OF PENAL CODE


 
We seem to be a wide variety of people that have been put together on this e-mail:  Religions, Agriculturalists, Justice, Econmics, Education, Civil Society, Gays and Lesbians, etc. - some of us may fall under more than one title, and maybe that is what brought us all together on this e-mail?
 
In my 9 years in Malawi, I have never heard so many Malawians be so outspoken on an issue.  I hope this same energy for advocacy will also extend itself to other important issues in our current system:
* Food and nutrition security
* Environment
* Economics
* Equality
* Etc.
 
We have a lot to work on in Malawi!  I hope that we can all work towards accepting each other and our different beliefs, religions and lifestyles and to continue to make Malawi a healthier, richer place to live despite our different choices in personal lifestyle. 
 
Stacia
 
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Stacia Nordin, RD
Nutrition Consultant
Specialist in Sustainable Food & Nutrition Security and HIV/AIDS
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----- Original Message -----

From: LESBIAN AND GAY MALAWI

To: mejn@sdnp.org.mw ; edunetwork@ndi.org ; agnetwork@ndi.org ; civsoc-mw@sdnp.org.mw

Cc: nkhomasynod@globemw.net ; zombatc@globemw.net ; nifcott@globemw.net

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:48 PM

Subject: LOBBYING FOR AMMENDMENT OF PENAL CODE

 

LETS BRING EQUALITY AND JUST