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Would you date/marry a villager ?


*this question assumes that all the people who have access to the internet would be Upper Middle class in Malawian standards, dating below there class.


** assume that this villager tell u that they are doing their thing, trying to go back to  secondary school and then college, they are very ambitious, and wants to take care of you, and loves you deeply....



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Based on the assumption i would say the person has potential all you have to do is to make sure that they will get it done and not just talk.


sepu sepu



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Aw c'mon this strikes me as very steroetypical class prejudice. The class divide in Malawi isn't all that wide anyway. People from the village are not too noticable in the towns or schools for that matter. The divide here that you speak about is really a fianancial one. And some folks from the country have a lot more to lose so work a lot harder. My father grew up in the village in Chiradzulu in the 40s and worked very hard to succeed. Kamuzu, if you believe the Kachere tree myth, did the same. And I can vouch for a lot of other successful Malawians too.


What I'm really trying to say is that if we introduce that class distinction mindset to the Malawian society we run the risk of creating a certain elite based on the fact that they live in Namiwawa or Area 10. The assumtion would be that such folks are better and more likely to excell that ordinary hard working country folk, who have better grades and work harder.


Maybe, I'm wrong. Someone correct me if I am!!!



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i, miself, wudn't marry som1 less sivillised than moi. the reason being, its too embarasing cos am jus dumb and that wud make me look a 1000 times worse.

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My standards are very high and i want my future mate to have very high standard.  For a man to come and aproach me then i know he has high standards.  If someone from the village has that much ambition and wants to take care of me yeah i would give him a chance.  He shouldn't just talk qouting sepu sepu he should really get it done.  I WOULD be there helping him get his life on to success, and then i would be serious with him after I've seen that change and that his really doing what he promised to do.  Otherwise forget it



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A villager is also human,my great grandma is till alive (thank God) and she is a real villager still refuses to wear shoes!!!She is true to herself and I admire her,Althoigh she now lives in town she is STILL A VILLAGER,she wont accept change. They are happy with themselves and dont see themselves as 'villger" infact they look at us as fake wannabes!!!!So lets not look down on them,they lead simple lives and they are happy.

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Kesso


this class division really exist. People like your dad are exceptional in a way that they are those that had potential and effort to be the HIMS of the society. On the other hand most people in the village have less potential they dont think beyond growing up to own a small farm, get married and have lots of kids or go to town get a job and go back home wearing uncle boots and having a radio casette player.


Most of the time we can see that our parents hve had their from rugs to riches story according to malawian standars. I still stand behind my opinion that as long as they have potential and effort then i can go ahead.


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people in life have different desires and different aspirations not mentioning different needs.there is very little in human life that class cannot be successfully applied,it is the lunguage of extraordinary psychological subtllety but capable also of being related to mundane and material activities.both the rich and poor or the high class and lower class or the simple and complex have their value.

All forms of classification language are open to misapplication,if you want to marry a woman from the village which in our culture is lower class you will need a valid reason that will uphold the value of the person you want to marry.the same applies to someone in area 47 marrying someone from mtandire.

if you grew up by tradition, you value your tradition more than anything.that is your class to you it is high class.but to other people it may seem archaic.

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Originally posted by: sugarplum

"A villager is also human,my great grandma is till alive (thank God) and she is a real villager still refuses to wear shoes!!!She is true to herself and I admire her,Althoigh she now lives in town she is STILL A VILLAGER,she wont accept change. They are happy with themselves and dont see themselves as 'villger" infact they look at us as fake wannabes!!!!So lets not look down on them,they lead simple lives and they are happy."


Sugarplum,


you did not answer the question,would you now please?



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" people in life have different desires and different aspirations not mentioning different needs.there is very little in human life that class cannot be successfully applied,it is the lunguage of extraordinary psychological subtllety but capable also of being related to mundane and material activities.both the rich and poor or the high class and lower class or the simple and complex have their value.


game,


this is true.Aspirations and needs drive the person to seek someone who best suits what they are looking for.What people look for in their prospective partners will always be different,some look for the riches,some look for educational qualificationsand others for the looks(beautiful or handsome)as the say"think about the children".To say we should look for potential is very subjective,potential for what If may I ask?is it potential for good looking children,potential for better life and potential to help you achieve your dreams whether in education and careers?


Marrying a villager is not a problem depending on what you are looking for.Most men would marry an uneducated villager just because they want a housewife,someone who will always be home all the time but I doubt if the ladies would marry someone just to have a man at home.Our culture,the malawian culture that is,has always put the man to be the breadwinner and no matter what I dont think this mentality will change hence my doubts that most ladies would marry an uneducated villager.


But being a villager is also subject to interpretation,does it literally mean someone who was born,grew up and spent the better part of his life in the village or does it mean someone who is not educated,not clever/intelligent looking though he grew up in town?remember we have some people who grew up in the villages,went to school,excelled in the education area,have nice jobs but still act as villagers in their homes(you can take them out of the village but you cant take the village out of them)and we have some who went through the same but have managed to shake off the"villager"tag.So lets first define what we mean by "villager"



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Yes I would if he looked like TYRESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Yes I would if he looked like TYRESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Sugarplum,


you mean wa nkhongo ngati Tyrese?think about the children!!!



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Ngwazi


With a fantastic body like that (especially the six pack) I would excuse the nkhongo!!!!You cant find anything perfect especially human beings



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"Ngwazi With a fantastic body like that (especially the six pack) I would excuse the nkhongo!!!!You cant find anything perfect especially human beings"


Sugarplum,


the sixpack is artificial,if he stops working out it goes but the nkhongo is natural,mpaka kumanda.


Be careful my sista,think about the children!!!kugemulidwa chifukwa cha nkhongo is painful cozpeople talk about something you cant see,umangomva kuti"nkhongo yaikuluyo,yobaila mandasi",dont let your children to be in the line of fire,think about them,think about the children(zocheza!!!)



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I found this to be a very good topic because I am one of those guys brought up in a typical village life. But since ten years ago I have tested town life. I have been to several countries in southern africa and now I am in Europe. I am now wondering which side do I belong according to the topic? By the way I am a new member and I hope I am welcomed.



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"I am one of those guys brought up in a typical village life. But since ten years ago I have tested town life. I have been to several countries in southern africa and now I am in Europe. I am now wondering which side do I belong according to the topic?


Mulopwana,


of course you are welcome man,feel free to participate in any discussion that you want.Coming back to your question,In one of my postings I touched on a scenario like yours and I said there is a need to define who a"villager" is before we can talk about "marrying a villager".It is very clear that our understanding of who a villager is would not be same if we take other factors into play,factors like the persons behaviour(whether brought up in the village or town),circle of friends,attitude to new technology,his thinking(traditional or liberal)and any other that one can think of as acriteria.


In your scenario,I would say though you were brought up in the typical village set up,it seems you have managed to shake off the villager tag.You are well conversant with new technology   (proof:you are able to use the internet!!),you have travelled a lot,this has helped you to face situations and things that you were not aware of as you grew up thereby helping you open up your mind and accept such things(something you could not have done if you were still in your village up to now,liberal minded).I dont know much about you and I might be wrong but you dont fall in the category of people I would  call"a villager".



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What's with this bias towards so-called "villagers". I just don't get it. Reading some of the posts I get the impression that some people are prejudiced towards them. Correct me if I'm wrong but people actually think they are BETTER than those country folks? How? Because you watch MTV and stuff? Because you know more about contemporary western culture?

Shame on you lot! I can think of a millions ways and things that country folk with their simple lives will have the upper hand...

So when we think we are better than them, we don't have a bloody clue. makes us ignorant c**ts.

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"What's with this bias towards so-called "villagers". I just don't get it. Reading some of the posts I get the impression that some people are prejudiced towards them. ........................................ So when we think we are better than them, we don't have a bloody clue. makes us ignorant c**ts."


Kesso and All,


why dont we first define what we mean by "villagers" before we start slagging each other off and name calling?Otherwise if we leave the term to everyones interpretation then we will not be fair to the people who currently live in villages in malawi or elsewhere.So who is a "villager?"



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Sugarplum , what are the chances of someone from the village having a body like tyrese when its hard for them just to find food ? nHe would be skinny.

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There are two classes in MAlawi upper and lower. Villager are considered lower. let be realistic here and say what we all know people really think. This village lover of urs most likey will try and do what they can to make it - but most likey he will be starting out latre , ie going to finish secondary school in is 20's, start colleg in his 30's (yes, i dont undestand this is possible) but will u stick by him/her whilst they were doing this ? It will take years ? also what would u talk about ? (unless, as mentioned by someone,its a guy looking for a housewife" & that conversation happens to be based on monosyllbolic words like "must eat", and "me need food wife" - and thats the onlt engrish (s.i.c.) ur gonna teach her.


We can all say this on paper (online) - but lets look at it realistically. Most people abroad wont even look twice at someone "fresh of the plane" from Malawi - so what more a villager?


Villager meaning simply - someone that lived their life in the village. which means village menality etc... - and I say this, w/o implying that villagers are inferior but in Malawi, people being from the village does have that connotation - negative- backward etc... so knowing there is also that social stigma - do all u people that say u would , really do it?



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That's why they would have a body like that because they dont binge on k.f.c and macdonalds. that 100% muscle and they dont have to go to the gym for it. It takes alot to even have a flat stomach these days,so if its natural then why not appreciate it. Just gear him up in some nice designer clothes,perfumes teach him how to drive(etc)and behold!!!

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