Of German And Japanese Cars In MLW

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

Of German And Japanese Cars In MLW

bingiza · Guru

I dont think u are right the market value of a mercedes, VW and beemer cannot be the same as a corrola or Japanese cars. Duty is charged in a compounded formula so the higher the price the more u pay.

mulomwe · Senior Member

Customs duty is determined by people and it can always be twisted if you palm oil them. You give them say K50,000.00 they will share and you pay half the amount.

Even if you bring a car from the junkyard they will still charge you heavily because they have targets to meet.

Pope · Guru

mulomwe wrote:

Customs duty is determined by people and it can always be twisted if you palm oil them. You give them say K50,000.00 they will share and you pay half the amount.

what other name is this process, let ACB know.

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

bingiza wrote:

I dont think u are right the market value of a mercedes, VW and beemer cannot be the same as a corrola or Japanese cars. Duty is charged in a compounded formula so the higher the price the more u pay.

Bingiza, I understand what you mean but they dont differentiate when charging duty between the old and new. For example a 2005 plate Toyota Avensis gonna be charged far less than the 1993 plate BMW. And there wont be much difference between a 2006 BMW and a 1995 BMW. confused

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

mulomwe wrote:

Even if you bring a car from the junkyard they will still charge you heavily because they have targets to meet.

Mulomwe

I agree with you ... biggrin

awmygawd · Guru

I've heard the strangest stories about MW's customs people, many of them about the way they just dream up amounts to charge importers. The most disturbing, I think, is the one about duty collection targets they have to meet. Daylight robbery in my opinion.

-- Edited by awmygawd at 19:41, 2007-06-18

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

awmygawd wrote:

I've heard the strangest stories about MW's customs people, many of them about the way they just dream up amounts to charge importers. The most disturbing, I think, is the one about duty collection targets they have to meet. Daylight robbery in my opinion.

-- Edited by awmygawd at 19:41, 2007-06-18

True! Very very strange! I was left agape when my pal was told to pay K570, 000 for his 1994 plate BMW @ Mzuzu office. He was told to appeal which he did but he never got feedback. Everytime he went to enquire he was told the appeal is not yet thru. It took him three solid month then he decided to go to their HQs in BT.

He couldnt believe what he heard. They told him that the appeal was thru 2 months ago and he was supposed to pay only K300,000.

Its a broaddaylight robbery! Nanga galimoto imodzi mpaka kuponda K270,000 the difference!

-- Edited by Dada Ngwazi at 20:10, 2007-06-18

chinyaugulewankulu · Newbie

Makosana, if the money you pay goes to the government coffers i believe they must charge more and more, because you must be purnished for not investing alot in your own country than bringing in the junk.

Look, you are importing your BMW to mlw in which at the end of its MOT it wont pass in the country you are and no body wont buy it and the only place that it can live another life is my beatiful country of mlw where air is clean and its people dont do much damage to the environment.

Friends of Mlw and the government must do much on this.

awmygawd · Guru

chinyaugulewankulu wrote:

Makosana, if the money you pay goes to the government coffers i believe they must charge more and more, because you must be purnished for not investing alot in your own country than bringing in the junk.

Look, you are importing your BMW to mlw in which at the end of its MOT it wont pass in the country you are and no body wont buy it and the only place that it can live another life is my beatiful country of mlw where air is clean and its people dont do much damage to the environment.

Friends of Mlw and the government must do much on this.

This issue has been discussed here, recently too. I'd actually agree with you if:

1) Government could be trusted to spend taxpayer's money properly and not to the benefit of a few well placed individuals (e.g. phenomenal Gvt advertising spend on certain newspapers despite them being so obscure, commercial advertisers avoid them like the plague

2) Buying vehicles from suppliers in Malawi wasn't itself a protracted act of import (Malawi doesn't have an auto' industry in it's own right. The dealerships are mostly foreign owned anyway, and the only purpose they server is to make the process of importing vehicles easier for end users

3) Your argument didn't rest on the (spurious) assumption of vehicles imported into Malawi (by the end users on their own behalf rather than the dealerships) mostly being "junk"

4) Malawians weren't infact guilty of contributing to the damage of their own environment. The environmental issues that, as a Malawian, you should be worried about are deforestation (can someone post some before and after pictures of mt Mulanje?), over fishing and water pollution (due to all the free fertiliser that's being handed out). These are very real problems with near-immediate economic and humanitarian consequences.

5) The influx of cheap imported cars into Malawi was ultimately harmful to the economy. I think the gains in national mobility and cost savings to individuals far outweigh the benefits supporting local dealerships would bring.

Malawians are only being rational when they decide to import motor vehicles on their own.

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

awmygawd wrote:

chinyaugulewankulu wrote:

Makosana, if the money you pay goes to the government coffers i believe they must charge more and more, because you must be purnished for not investing alot in your own country than bringing in the junk.

Look, you are importing your BMW to mlw in which at the end of its MOT it wont pass in the country you are and no body wont buy it and the only place that it can live another life is my beatiful country of mlw where air is clean and its people dont do much damage to the environment.

Friends of Mlw and the government must do much on this.

This issue has been discussed here, recently too. I'd actually agree with you if:

4) Malawians weren't infact guilty of contributing to the damage of their own environment. The environmental issues that, as a Malawian, you should be worried about are deforestation (can someone post some before and after pictures of mt Mulanje?), over fishing and water pollution (due to all the free fertiliser that's being handed out). These are very real problems with near-immediate economic and humanitarian consequences.

If it is for the environment issue you better blame those who deforest Malawi's beauty; deforestation is the worst contributor to it, I agree with awmygawd. biggrin

bingiza · Guru

The main problem is that we cheat too much undervaluing vehicles like mandasi. I know a friend who has imported a car duty free koma eee mtengo wake wokhawo.

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

bingiza wrote:
I know a friend who has imported a car duty free koma eee mtengo wake wokhawo.

Does your friend live in diaspora? From what I know if you are returning to your country permanently, all your property is classified as duty-free. I don't dispute 'munthu ndi munthu' they abuse this system. weirdface

bingiza · Guru

I have the car with me it came some 4 moons ago and the reason for undervaluing it she will not be able to use it sinanga pound ndi malawi kwacha si paubale, she simply wanted the money from here nde i said shush no comments.

sibweni · Senior Member

chinyaugulewankulu wrote:

Makosana, if the money you pay goes to the government coffers i believe they must charge more and more, because you must be purnished for not investing alot in your own country than bringing in the junk.

Look, you are importing your BMW to mlw in which at the end of its MOT it wont pass in the country you are and no body wont buy it and the only place that it can live another life is my beatiful country of mlw where air is clean and its people dont do much damage to the environment.

Friends of Mlw and the government must do much on this.

this is really unfair of you for just jumping on a conclusion that all imported cars are bangers. yes some are but not all of them.
what the government should have done is put a restriction on age of motors imported i have seen it work in kenya where cars over seven years are forbidden. this will protect our country from being a dumping place of junkyard material. but then how many malawians will be able to buy an m reg toyota avensis? it is only fair to allow the current system go on as long as corruption among us is to the minimum as possible.

the duty paid on bmw or merc should equate the value of the machine itself. of investing in our country you must really be blind of the good these cars you call junk**** are doing to our folks back in streets karonga chitipa nsanje chiringa. the money we make goes straight to those in need unlike what these politicians and goverment are doing by looking who supports who for them to invest in communities.

of environment who givea a monkey?

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

sibweni wrote:

what the government should have done is put a restriction on age of motors imported i have seen it work in kenya where cars over seven years are forbidden. this will protect our country from being a dumping place of junkyard material.but then how many malawians will be able to buy an m reg toyota avensis? it is only fair to allow the current system go on as long as corruption among us is to the minimum as possible.

the duty paid on bmw or merc should equate the value of the machine itself. of investing in our country you must really be blind of the good these cars you call junk**** are doing to our folks back in streets karonga chitipa nsanje chiringa. the money we make goes straight to those in need unlike what these politicians and goverment are doing by looking who supports who for them to invest in communities.

of environment who givea a monkey?

Correction : The first Toyota AVENSIS on the market was an R plate ie 1997/8 ;M reg is for cars manufactured in 1994/5 by then it was the Toyota CARINA which the Avensis replaced in 1997/8 biggrin

I agree with u Sibweni on the point that Govt should have put the age restriction of the imported vehicles like in Kenya, and I ve known most of the west african countries who take the restriction into practice.

Although on the other hand it would be very hard for certain quota who won't manage to buy a 10yrs less vehicle cos the price will still be dear for them, and in the course they will be struggling to make ends meet. I quote Bingiza's in one of the threads "paja paundi ndi kwacha si paubale " cry

awmygawd · Guru

sibweni wrote:
this is really unfair of you for just jumping on a conclusion that all imported cars are bangers. yes some are but not all of them.
what the government should have done is put a restriction on age of motors imported i have seen it work in kenya where cars over seven years are forbidden. this will protect our country from being a dumping place of junkyard material. but then how many malawians will be able to buy an m reg toyota avensis? it is only fair to allow the current system go on as long as corruption among us is to the minimum as possible.

the duty paid on bmw or merc should equate the value of the machine itself. of investing in our country you must really be blind of the good these cars you call junk**** are doing to our folks back in streets karonga chitipa nsanje chiringa. the money we make goes straight to those in need unlike what these politicians and goverment are doing by looking who supports who for them to invest in communities.

of environment who givea a monkey?

You can't ignore the environment and be concerned about your folk back in Nsanje, Chitipa, etc at the same time. Of course the motor vehicle related environmental damage coming out of Malawi is minuscule (as I pointed out earlier on), but the other issues are serious. Why do you think MW has been in a perpetual state of famine for most of the past few years?

sibweni · Senior Member

isnt it funny? while you cry aloud of environment in our mamaland our folks are busy persecuting each other for witholding rain. eetu eeeeh! a pope kumanga mvula kwambiri.

ndsote · Newbie

The problem with Mw is katangale and poverty. They really over charge the duty and you get to wonder why. The cars you are calling junk might be junk in the UK but are ya katukatu in Mw. How many of the 12 million malawians back home can afford a car. Akufuna tidzingokwela midula iwo akusangalala.

Ngwazi · Guru

sibweni wrote:

a pope kumanga mvula kwambiri.

Iyi ndiyetu ndewu,koma Pope wawiwona imeneyi?Shaaaaa! weirdface

bingiza · Guru

I imported this thru the Zambezi waterway duty free.

Atame · Veteran Member

Shire zambezi water way yatha kodi? ndiye nafe tikaode magalimoto athu
pa Nsanje ndipafupi apa sitifunanso muthu kukatitengera
Bingiza yako wayigula kuti?

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

Ha ha ha ha why duty free ? wink

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

Atame wrote:

Shire zambezi water way yatha kodi? ndiye nafe tikaode magalimoto athu
pa Nsanje ndipafupi apa sitifunanso muthu kukatitengera
Bingiza yako wayigula kuti?

Bingiza ma order achuuluka. Nanenso ndikaphuleko ziwiri. biggrin

awmygawd · Guru

bingiza wrote:
I imported this thru the Zambezi waterway duty free.

Ha ha! Koma ndi nyatwa!

jendayekha · Newbie

Njale nyatwa, now I am proud to say EXIT DUBAI, ENTER TETE. I've pressed my order already! biggrin

Thanks Bingiza for the info!!!

Mr Sir · Newbie

Actually those cars are considered as a luxury, that is why you pay higher rates than say a corolla. Perfect example is if you import a truck you are required to pay just the tax.

kufakwaanthu · Newbie

sibweni wrote:

...what the government should have done is put a restriction on age of motors imported i have seen it work in kenya where cars over seven years are forbidden. this will protect our country from being a dumping place of junkyard material. but then how many malawians will be able to buy an m reg toyota avensis? it is only fair to allow the current system go on as long as corruption among us is to the minimum as possible...

Yes I can't agree more. How many people in
Malawi can afford a 1970 Zonse car.

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