THE TRUTH ABOUT BEER: ABRES ,GAME AND BINGIZA

eetchef · Senior Member

THE TRUTH ABOUT BEER: ABRES ,GAME AND BINGIZA

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

Eetchef, what I have noticed is that lager/beer have different taste depending on where it was brewed. For example, the Stella Artois which is brewed in Luton,UK tastes different from the Stella Artois brewed in Belgium. The one from Belgium is perfect and pure and tasty while the UK one is crap, tastes like has been diluted.

As for the bottled Malawian beer, it is the probably the best the world has ever brewed compared to the canned UK carlsberg. And I miss Carlsberg Brown and Green, I miss that booze!!

ndsote · Newbie

makonda maonda, buluzi anakonda khonde ine ndinakonda Special.Palibenso

mikhe · Veteran Member

Payinti, payinti, payinti! Amikhe amakonda nkonti aah! Kill me quick, Njanji, Rumsberg, Ntchaso atakonkhamo nambala wani pan'gono. Olo nthuthuthu imatha kulira!!

bingiza · Guru

will come back to u i promise.

bingiza · Guru

For starters am not very much into beer i love my Premier brandy and soda water.
There is a lot more to beer and spirits than just the taste you are talking about, there is water element in all this garb we drink, the treatment might be the same but the finished product will never be the same talk of altitude, source, chlorine or ultraviolet treatment all these will play a major role in what you will consume in the end.
A lot of you guys out there use recycled water unlike Malawi where we mostly use fresh water that is treated once.This is what leads to all these different tastes.Ever wondered why in Malawi Calrsberg is only made in BT? Its not that the company cant afford it but the water in Mzuzu and Lilongwe is different from BT all efforts are made to ensure uniformity as Dada Ngwazi said on Stella Artois. I have tasted a lot of stuff what came close to my heart was the now i suspect defucnt Ohhlsons lager it had a crisp taste.

Eetchef
Malawians in Malawi are no longer taking the canned beer (i dont know where u got that info, maybe Malawians in diaspora) they are taking a lot of Amstel and Castle (in glass bottles) not forgetting Malawi Gin and tonic. The majority is in the Ndirande (Makata) Carlsberg and they love it so much. The one's taking the imported brands are just making a statement that they can afford it thats all, nothing much if you ask them about any quality or taste issues they will just brush you off as having no money hence cant afford it, yes its a premium beer but man kuledzera chimodzi modzi ndi Amikhe akadya NTONJANI wawo. But truthful speaking Malawians are loving their calsberg green in a green bottle, and for your info brown is on its last legs got it from guys there that its no longer going to be on the market. Eeeiiiissssh i have written so much about this beer stuff.

Dont forget Chibuku a lot of folks on this forum had a romance with the revered "MULI KUDYA" and the dear "MULI KUMWA"

-- Edited by bingiza at 10:30, 2007-03-19

Tango · Senior Member

bingiza wrote:

For starters am not very much into beer i love my Premier brandy and soda water.
There is a lot more to beer and spirits than just the taste you are talking about, there is water element in all this garb we drink, the treatment might be the same but the finished product will never be the same talk of altitude, source, chlorine or ultraviolet treatment all these will play a major role in what you will consume in the end.
A lot of you guys out there use recycled water unlike Malawi where we mostly use fresh water that is treated once.This is what leads to all these different tastes.Ever wondered why in Malawi Calrsberg is only made in BT? Its not that the company cant afford it but the water in Mzuzu and Lilongwe is different from BT all efforts are made to ensure uniformity as Dada Ngwazi said on Stella Artois. I have tasted a lot of stuff what came close to my heart was the now i suspect defucnt Ohhlsons lager it had a crisp taste.

Eetchef
Malawians in Malawi are no longer taking the canned beer (i dont know where u got that info, maybe Malawians in diaspora) they are taking a lot of Amstel and Castle (in glass bottles) not forgetting Malawi Gin and tonic. The majority is in the Ndirande (Makata) Carlsberg and they love it so much. The one's taking the imported brands are just making a statement that they can afford it thats all, nothing much if you ask them about any quality or taste issues they will just brush you off as having no money hence cant afford it, yes its a premium beer but man kuledzera chimodzi modzi ndi Amikhe akadya NTONJANI wawo. But truthful speaking Malawians are loving their calsberg green in a green bottle, and for your info brown is on its last legs got it from guys there that its no longer going to be on the market. Eeeiiiissssh i have written so much about this beer stuff.

Dont forget Chibuku a lot of folks on this forum had a romance with the revered "MULI KUDYA" and the dear "MULI KUMWA"

-- Edited by bingiza at 10:30, 2007-03-19

It seems like you did not do your homework thoroughly my dear eetchef. Go back to the drawing board and do your research bwinobwino and you will discover that a lot Malawians drink bottled beer. Its only a few ladies in town who are still taking canned beer.
All we take is liquor, amikhe takes his Njanji, Rumsburg as he prefer calling it, I take my almighty green and you take your favourite one and at the end we all get drunk. Remember that opaque beer is the only prefered beer locally.
By the way, how is this thread connected to Bingiza, Abres and Game? C'mone eetchef, Im I wrong to conclude that you only wanted the thread to get so much attention ( I stand to be corrected).

-- Edited by Tango at 12:03, 2007-03-19

mizu yapasi · Member

whisky or brandy,beer or wine,vodka or ethanol,chibuku or mntonjani,canned, bottled or wampaketi,we all achieve onething,and thats getting drunk.Sichoncho nanga!Koma maulemu apite kwa kachasu ndi chibuku,zinazi takumana nazo titakula kale(zachilendo)

-- Edited by mizu yapasi at 11:59, 2007-03-19

Tango · Senior Member

mizu yapasi wrote:

whisky or brandy,beer or wine,vodka or ethanol,chibuku or mntonjani,canned, bottled or wampaketi,we all achieve onething,and thats getting drunk.Sichoncho nanga!Koma maulemu apite kwa kachasu ndi chibuku,zinazi takumana nazo titakula kale(zachilendo)

-- Edited by mizu yapasi at 11:59, 2007-03-19

.... I salute that Kachasu (amikhe will bow) but also remember chikokeyani chinayamba kalekale mmidzimu Chibuku chisanabwere. What about matanthi ku Ntambanyama ku Thyolo, mowa wa make dzana.

Tango · Senior Member

mizu yapasi wrote:

whisky or brandy,beer or wine,vodka or ethanol,chibuku or mntonjani,canned, bottled or wampaketi,we all achieve onething,and thats getting drunk.Sichoncho nanga!Koma maulemu apite kwa kachasu ndi chibuku,zinazi takumana nazo titakula kale(zachilendo)

-- Edited by mizu yapasi at 11:59, 2007-03-19

.... I salute that Kachasu (amikhe will bow) but also remember chikokeyani chinayamba kalekale mmidzimu Chibuku chisanabwere. What about matanthi ku Ntambanyama ku Thyolo, mowa wa make dzana.

Studa · Senior Member

eetchef, what do those people you mentioned have to do with the subject at hand? and is what you wrote there actually the truth about beer?

as far as i am aware, we really used to like drinking from cans only to show that ulinazo because they cost more than the bottled ones. it was a short lived thing that it only lasted a few years and even then the majority were still on bottled liquor, not forgetting mikhe and his goons who pay allegance to the other suff.

let us do some research first before coming to conclusions. this would have been the best place to post your inquiries.

bingiza · Guru

By the way i stand to be corrected if my memory serves me right i havent seen any canned beer in the bars (Mind you i do a lot of travelling).

Dont worry about Eetchef he is a London boy angomva za pa Malawi kwa anzake.

-- Edited by bingiza at 13:59, 2007-03-19

Atame · Veteran Member

eetchef kuli carlsberg green in a green mbina bottle pepa.

BlackMoses · Veteran Member

depends on which bars - coz personally have seen canned beer in the local pubs! travelling and being observant when travelling are two different things.

however, im in agreement that canned beer is no longer attracting any special attention from customers as it used to.
have you ever experienced a scenario whereby you and the drinking mates walk into a pub and you are all drinking carlsberg. then some ladies walks in and asks you guys to buy them some bloody expensive canned beer (mind you they aint with you guys and you are on budget)?

eetchef · Senior Member

I reared this topic by just 'guesstimating' roughly some members remote perspectives on attitudes and pride towards home made products especially our own Carlsberg and GMT. Once again , arrogance took over at this point by taking on board Bingiza, Game and the ever watchful Abres, and I can conclude that the respondents that didn't agree with me are wrong!

bingiza · Guru

Blackmo which pubs?

eetchef · Senior Member

eetchef wrote:

Of course , most of you guys have never actually made a conscious effort to compare a range of beers in a real blind beer tasting test where you’re unaware of which beer you’re sampling. You simply base your beliefs on how it is packed. Crazy, madness and crude brute!

-- Edited by eetchef at 05:51, 2007-03-17

-- Edited by eetchef at 05:52, 2007-03-17

Ever since I last had the fun of Malawi Carlsberg in a bottle I have not just been drinking my beer in Diaspora but also tasting it by comparison. You may be thinking that by the very act of drinking beer then you must be tasting it as well, and you would probably be right. But I am not just talking about tasting beer, I am talking about REALLY tasting beer ! Lets not be tricked.!!

Take my topic for what it was supposed to be, perhaps just an indication of my falsified impressions of Malawian admiration of a canned beer. But I can't change anything now because this was simply my vain imagination and I was interested to hear your views albeit from a very weak angle. Malawi Carlsberg bottled beer is probably the best beer in this world. And you shall never go wrong hailing our own MGT over these Polish Vodkas.

What’s up Carlsberg brown…….brown sugar!

mikhe · Veteran Member

A troubled mind from amikhes point of view!

Black Panther · Senior Member

Theres a business term for this.. I forgot wht it is something to do with branding.... but they specifically alter the tastes of every chain food or chain store to fit the tastes of the people in that country... Coke in France is not the same as Coke in Malawi for example....

Tango · Senior Member

eetchef wrote:

I reared this topic by just 'guesstimating' roughly some members remote perspectives on attitudes and pride towards home made products especially our own Carlsberg and GMT. Once again , arrogance took over at this point by taking on board Bingiza, Game and the ever watchful Abres, and I can conclude that the respondents that didn't agree with me are wrong!

With due respect eetchef, I dont like your so called guesstimating. I understand you live in London but try to get in touch with fellow folks at home. They will surely tell you that most people take bottled beer. Im far from home also but Im being updated daily from my buddies at home.
To quote one of the local gospel artist, " munthu oledzera mzimu wa a Mbuye umamuchokera....oledzera onse, adama ndi zina zambiri, imfa ikudikira uko.....sitimasilira za chikunja" end of quote.
Sindinakhutirebe with your reply on why you have used Bingiza, Abres and Game on the topic of your thread.

-- Edited by Tango at 12:39, 2007-03-20

-- Edited by Tango at 12:43, 2007-03-20

bingiza · Guru

Black Panther wrote:

Theres a business term for this.. I forgot wht it is something to do with branding.... but they specifically alter the tastes of every chain food or chain store to fit the tastes of the people in that country... Coke in France is not the same as Coke in Malawi for example....

Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Not the coke business my bro tell me of something else i will believe you, but save Coca Cola.

eetchef · Senior Member

Tango wrote:

eetchef wrote:

I reared this topic by just 'guesstimating' roughly some members remote perspectives on attitudes and pride towards home made products especially our own Carlsberg and GMT. Once again , arrogance took over at this point by taking on board Bingiza, Game and the ever watchful Abres, and I can conclude that the respondents that didn't agree with me are wrong!

With due respect eetchef, I dont like your so called guesstimating. I understand you live in London but try to get in touch with fellow folks at home. They will surely tell you that most people take bottled beer. Im far from home also but Im being updated daily from my buddies at home.
To quote one of the local gospel artist, " munthu oledzera mzimu wa a Mbuye umamuchokera....oledzera onse, adama ndi zina zambiri, imfa ikudikira uko.....sitimasilira za chikunja" end of quote.
Sindinakhutirebe with your reply on why you have used Bingiza, Abres and Game on the topic of your thread.

-- Edited by Tango at 12:39, 2007-03-20

-- Edited by Tango at 12:43, 2007-03-20

Listen Tango ,

Whats necessary for you to know at this point is that I have some great beliefs , and there should be no-one to ask about the philosophy behind my reason because at least I have valid reasons which I am not at liberty to divulge.

I don’t appreciate anyone who often seeks the reason and philosophy for some of the topics for the sake of gaining certainty and tranquillity of his own self and not that he wishes to use his confirmation and rejection as a means for perceiving the reason of pleasing actions or not.

If you pay some attention and deliberate over each of these three beautiful names I referred to minus the alcohol tag , you will realize that denying any one of them will not be rationally and traditionally permissible. So I believe you are bound to believe as well that everything on this topic is in accordance with prudence.

Infact the list was so long that I was afraid JRC had to edit. And it included :

Ayatollah , YTP, Plato, Mbilikunjanji, Bnk444, Samora, Sungani, Lady B, Chilungamobasi, Ngwazi, Observer, Skillzmanfest, Mbambadi, Awmygawd, Miss Thang, Tutu, Akhibula, Angoni, Pope, , Zeze,,,,,,,,,,,,Abromovich

-- Edited by eetchef at 17:57, 2007-03-20

Atame · Veteran Member

My question to JCR is why leaving the three names out of onsewo
what crieteria was used?

kapena iwe eetchef usatinamize apa

Dada Ngwazi · Senior Member

eetchef wrote:

Infact the list was so long that I was afraid JRC had to edit. And it included :
Ayatollah , YTP, Plato, Mbilikunjanji, Bnk444, Samora, Sungani, Lady B, Chilungamobasi, Ngwazi, Observer, Skillzmanfest, Mbambadi, Awmygawd, Miss Thang, Tutu, Akhibula, Angoni, Pope, , Zeze,,,,,,,,,,,,Abromovich

-- Edited by eetchef at 17:57, 2007-03-20

If all these names were enlisted, I can imagine how long the tittle of this topic was! No wonder JRC worked on it!

Tango · Senior Member

Dada Ngwazi wrote:

eetchef wrote:

Infact the list was so long that I was afraid JRC had to edit. And it included :
Ayatollah , YTP, Plato, Mbilikunjanji, Bnk444, Samora, Sungani, Lady B, Chilungamobasi, Ngwazi, Observer, Skillzmanfest, Mbambadi, Awmygawd, Miss Thang, Tutu, Akhibula, Angoni, Pope, , Zeze,,,,,,,,,,,,Abromovich

-- Edited by eetchef at 17:57, 2007-03-20

If all these names were enlisted, I can imagine how long the tittle of this topic was! No wonder JRC worked on it!

I have great respect for you eetchef but still Im not convinced, if the list was that long, why didnt you just put say, abromovich, zeze and angoni. I strongly believe that the three names you put are crowd pullers and you wanted that much attention.
Ok, even if we may put all those names there, the topic is about canned and bottled beer, what is the connection.

awmygawd · Guru

Black Panther wrote:
Theres a business term for this.. I forgot wht it is something to do with branding.... but they specifically alter the tastes of every chain food or chain store to fit the tastes of the people in that country... Coke in France is not the same as Coke in Malawi for example....

There was actually an article on this in Time a few weeks ago (last week of June '07). Apparently Nestlé makes 200 different versions of Nescafé, each of them localised for the specific markets they are targeted at (I always thought British coffee tasted dodgy; now I KNOW it does!).

mulomwe · Senior Member

Eetchef, did you think that Abre was going to comment on zamowa? I don't think so koma bola zikanakhala za NAMALENGA.

Tango is right, these names were chosen to attract attention.