MCHENGA'S REJECTION

kufakwaanthu · Newbie

MCHENGA'S REJECTION

ndsote · Newbie

Does it mean that there is no one currently acting in that capacity? Or has the whole audit department been shut down? I thought government is an entity that continues to operate due the vast human resource it possesses. Lero wina kufa mawa abwela wina.Life goes on.

mulomwe · Senior Member

What Mr Roy Comsy said was very unfortunate considering the numbers that DPP has in Parliament. The Mchenga rejection is testimony to that.

Now I hear the extra budget has also been rejected. And this will go on and on.

Tango · Senior Member

Have you ever seen our MPs in Parliament? Its the same as kindergarten. Comsy said opposition alibe nayo ntchito, JZU said OK, and the outcome is is what we see on the ground, Mchenga failed and extra budget failed as well. The one who will suffer is both you and me including our dear ones in the village.

rawn · Senior Member

Zaonjeza, a tit for tat is now working, aliyense akubweza moto, ovutika ndi ena

Pope · Guru

rawn wrote:

Zaonjeza, a tit for tat is now working, aliyense akubweza moto, ovutika ndi ena

nobody will suffer man the gvnmt will keep going with the previous approval, a opposition achita khungu.

Tango · Senior Member

Pope wrote:

rawn wrote:

Zaonjeza, a tit for tat is now working, aliyense akubweza moto, ovutika ndi ena

nobody will suffer man the gvnmt will keep going with the previous approval, a opposition achita khungu.

Mchenga rejected, Budget rejected and now developments in their constituents rejected as well.

mulomwe · Senior Member

VERY FUNNY!!!!!!

While the MPs were busy rejecting the budget, the IMF were busy discussing Malawi and the outcome is that they have agreed to pump in K1.4 billion to Malawi for budgetory support.

According to IMF, they are impressed with Malawi's performance under the PRGF.

BlackMoses · Veteran Member

kufakwaanthu wrote:

1. flimsy reasons ranging from misspelt Curriculum Vitae to unkind words from Roy Comsy.

2.The President should just dissolve this Parliament. Next time let's vote for people who have the potential to change things for the better.

i used to enjoy Peter Tosh' lylics some years back. have you ever listened to the one; 'when you are living in a glass house - dont throw stones'?

Achimwene, its simple logic. there was no justification for Roy Comzy to utter those provoking words. you would have seen why the front bench of the government side were not amused with that statement and thats why senior ministers in the likes of Chimuthu Banda and Goodall Gondwe had to urge the youngman (Comzy) to withdraw the statement. they exactly knew the consequence of such remarks in a house where they are outnumbered. (Dont throw stones when you are living in a glass house or kugenda ku ploice chamba chili nthumba) - are u surprised why the opposition opted for that action, im not! they are all practicing a tit for tat politics

i aint a lawyer, but im not sure if the president has powers to dissolve a parliament, not in the present circumstance anyway!

The Solution?
Ladies and Gentlemen, do you remember UDF was almost facing the same kind of hostile pariament in 1994 after AFORD and MCP joined up? u know what the Atcheya did? he brought in Chihana as a second vice president and some other Afold MP' as minister - the MCP/AFORD alliance died right thereafter! But alas, our Bingu cannot even manage to hold Gwanda, Kasambara, not even his best friend Zikhale, neither the change golo!! He has failed to convince JZU for a working coalition. He has even failed to talk to ALEKE to join forces with. he will remain a minority till 2009. (ladies and gentlemen; a working coalition or Government of national unity are the solutions)
I THINK I KNOW NOW WHY THE OTHER GUY IS A POLITICAL ENGINEER WHILE THE OTHER AN ECONOMICAL ENGINEER!!!

eetchef · Senior Member

Blackmooo......How do you justify the implication that this stupid parliament with over-grown adolescents must be commanding and powerful than the president himself?

One is a Political engineer and the other an economical engineer !? Come again on this please.

humbwa · Newbie

BlackMoses wrote:

Achimwene, its simple logic. there was no justification for Roy Comzy to utter those provoking words. you would have seen why the front bench of the government side were not amused with that statement and thats why senior ministers in the likes of Chimuthu Banda and Goodall Gondwe had to urge the youngman (Comzy) to withdraw the statement. they exactly knew the consequence of such remarks in a house where they are outnumbered. (Dont throw stones when you are living in a glass house or kugenda ku ploice chamba chili nthumba) - are u surprised why the opposition opted for that action, im not! they are all practicing a tit for tat politics

i aint a lawyer, but im not sure if the president has powers to dissolve a parliament, not in the present circumstance anyway!

The Solution?
Ladies and Gentlemen, do you remember UDF was almost facing the same kind of hostile pariament in 1994 after AFORD and MCP joined up? u know what the Atcheya did? he brought in Chihana as a second vice president and some other Afold MP' as minister - the MCP/AFORD alliance died right thereafter! But alas, our Bingu cannot even manage to hold Gwanda, Kasambara, not even his best friend Zikhale, neither the change golo!! He has failed to convince JZU for a working coalition. He has even failed to talk to ALEKE to join forces with. he will remain a minority till 2009. (ladies and gentlemen; a working coalition or Government of national unity are the solutions)
I THINK I KNOW NOW WHY THE OTHER GUY IS A POLITICAL ENGINEER WHILE THE OTHER AN ECONOMICAL ENGINEER!!!

I think the opposition guys were already bent on rejecting Mchenga just to embarass government. The issue of Comsy is just a flimsy excuse. But it only shows the calibre of people we call 'honourables' both on the government and the opposition side.

kufakwaanthu · Newbie

Our Opposition MPs are requesting the government to give them the breakdown on how the last budget has been used so far. This is literally the abuse of their numbers. Audited accounts would serve their requirements much better. Unfortunately the only manager who can make sure they have transparent, undoctored accounts is non other person than the rejected Mchenga. So MPs should act wise next time.

Agonenji Kufakwaanthu

bingiza · Guru

Words my bro

awmygawd · Guru

What exactly did Roy Chomsy say?

bingiza · Guru

The govt has nothing to do with JZU

BlackMoses · Veteran Member

eetchef wrote:

Blackmooo......How do you justify the implication that this stupid parliament with over-grown adolescents must be commanding and powerful than the president himself?

One is a Political engineer and the other an economical engineer !? Come again on this please.

i respect all the set rules in any game i enjoy to play or watch/follow!! i respect what in the constitution of the malaw government calls ''three arms of Government'' the pariament and the executive being separate to each other. so eetchef, there is no question of pariament being commanding and too powerfull than the president - this automatically leads me to the 2nd question of two engineers!!

Lets suppose Bingu was Muluzi and Muluzi was Bingu. do you know that i believe the Muluzi in Bingu would have managed to obtain the working numbers in pariament. he would not have been facing all these rejections and the like....he would have managed to have had other parties supporting his policies in pariament thereby passing bills and budgets. i come again, muluzi is a real smart politician....and all politicians are supposed to play politics, however my current president is not a smart politician, BUT a very good economist!!!

Tango · Senior Member

kufakwaanthu wrote:

Our Opposition MPs are requesting the government to give them the breakdown on how the last budget has been used so far. This is literally the abuse of their numbers. Audited accounts would serve their requirements much better. Unfortunately the only manager who can make sure they have transparent, undoctored accounts is non other person than the rejected Mchenga. So MPs should act wise next time.

Agonenji Kufakwaanthu

Kufakwaanthu, remember those ministers who have already overspent already. Atiuze kaye kuti adya bwanji makwacha a misonkho yathu.

Studa · Senior Member

i am not at all suprised by the recent activities in parliament, if some of you can recall i said there will be fireworks in parliament this sitting. and we should expect more as this is just the mere tip of the iceberg.

this is a very complex matter but we can simplify it by looking at how we ended up in this position. muluzi imposed muntharika on his party and campained for him heavily despite the outcry from all sectors. muntharika ditched the udf and formed his dpp who are aminority in the legislature. at this point we should remind ourselves that the system was designed to work without flaws on the condition that the ruling party has a mojority of seats in parliament.

as we all know this is not the case thus we should brace ourselves for more tit for tat and raping of our constitution.

i personally blame the whole issue on atchea, and if you let him back, that country will be torn to shreds!

too bad.

ndsote · Newbie

kufakwaanthu wrote:

Our Opposition MPs are requesting the government to give them the breakdown on how the last budget has been used so far. This is literally the abuse of their numbers. Audited accounts would serve their requirements much better. Unfortunately the only manager who can make sure they have transparent, undoctored accounts is non other person than the rejected Mchenga. So MPs should act wise next time.

Agonenji Kufakwaanthu

I really do not see the abuse of numbers you are talking about.The whole point of having a budget pass through the house is to ensure accountability and that accountability can only be present if the approval of further use of funds is dependent upon the proper explanation of how pre approved funds were used.Checks and balances bro.Politics might be in play but thats just part of the game aint it?And by the way, the purpose of auditing those accounts is not to tell the house how the funds were used but rather whether the accounts present fairly in accordance to certain standards. An explanation would not kill anybody rather inform the taxpayers on how their funds were used.

awmygawd · Guru

Well said Ndsote, Studa.

eetchef · Senior Member

ndsote wrote:

I really do not see the abuse of numbers you are talking about.The whole point of having a budget pass through the house is to ensure accountability and that accountability can only be present if the approval of further use of funds is dependent upon the proper explanation of how pre approved funds were used.Checks and balances bro.Politics might be in play but thats just part of the game aint it?And by the way, the purpose of auditing those accounts is not to tell the house how the funds were used but rather whether the accounts present fairly in accordance to certain standards. An explanation would not kill anybody rather inform the taxpayers on how their funds were used.

Which tax-payers could these possibly be?

mikhe · Veteran Member

Do not attempt to walk on fire and expect not to be consumed! How can Comsy say the government does not require the opposition? Anatumidwa kapena chani. More huldles for Munthrika's admin to leap over. Adikile Amikhe akafika pamalo, all his nightmares will become reality! Amikhe does not torelate intorelant people!

Adilo · Newbie

I think the problem is that most of our MPs are (to put it politely) intellectually challenged. Any decent person/MP knows that the opposition plays an integral part in any political system. Comsy's comment was ignorant, immature and not worthy of an "honourable".

A few years ago 1 MP was jeered in parliament because he said more than half of the MPs were not educated. I think he was jeered for speaking the truth. Maybe if the minimum education level was raised we could have a more responsible house. Of course the mystery is that anthu ena ophunzila act just as useless.

humbwa · Newbie

Actually there are a good number of ministers and deputy ministers that Bingu can do withiout. These are the likes of Comsy, Kachikho, Kaliatis e.t.c. All they do is make noise. Empty tins for sure!

Atame · Veteran Member

Mkhuyu zodya mwana zimapota wamkulu. Ndiye ana achoke
anawa say things out of the blues bwekabweka(ka comsy kachoke)

kufakwaanthu · Newbie

humbwa wrote:

... a good number of ministers and deputy ministers that Bingu can do withiout. ...the likes of Comsy, Kachikho, Kaliatis e.t.c...

With due respect to my learned collegue but I feel DPP government cannot do without Kaliati. Over time Kweni has established herself as a bedrock of Malawian politics. From a fair analysis Kweni has established herself not only as a spin doctor for Kasupe but her eloquency has improved over time. For the others yes but NOT Kweni. Enough respect.

BlackMoses · Veteran Member

Thats the first time i have heard from a fellow malawian praising Kweni (Patricia Kaliati). last time i heard something positive about her was from a newspaper where she was given an 8 out of 10 during Cabinet assessment conducted by this other local paper.

Pope · Guru

humbwa wrote:

Actually there are a good number of ministers and deputy ministers that Bingu can do withiout. These are the likes of Comsy, Kachikho, Kaliatis e.t.c. All they do is make noise. Empty tins for sure!

ha ha ha ha.... and you expect Gondwe types to fill the cabinet?and your campaign?????? revist malawi politics

bingiza · Guru

Amongst any fruit you wont fail to find a rotten one.