HAVE OUR PARENTS LET US DOWN

Trina · Newbie

HAVE OUR PARENTS LET US DOWN

abre les ojos · Guru

I cannot say that I share your lamentations.

I personally wouldn't expect children born and bred outside Malawi to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima - which is really just a tasteless, non-nutritious pap.

Malawi has a very poor dietary regime. And that aspect of it's culture needs changing badly.

As for the "khalidwe" part. Every generation in history looks at the younger generation as having less morals and whines about themselves being better brought up in some "gone-were-the-days" fantasy. Tradition is the illusion of permanence.

rick · Senior Member

abre les ojos wrote:
I personally wouldn't expect children born and bred outside Malawi to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima - which is really just a tasteless, non-nutritious pap

what would you prefer to feed them black pudding?

sameway you define nsima as being nasty and tasteless,is the sameway others would define your postings. mr sophisticated.

get a life, you should thank asda/walmart for your existance.where would you have been without there smart price range?

amalawi ntima.

ur are a joke

Francois · Newbie

abre les ojos wroteI cannot say that I share your lamentations.

I personally wouldn't expect children born and bred outside Malawi to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima - which is really just a tasteless, non-nutritious pap.

Abre,
You dont know what ur talking about.You cant even compare British food and Malawian food.Just think of the taste for starters.For nutrition are u sure Ngaiwa has no any nutrition?Have you been brain washed?Grow up men.

game · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

I cannot say that I share your lamentations.

I personally wouldn't expect children born and bred outside Malawi to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima - which is really just a tasteless, non-nutritious pap.

Malawi has a very poor dietary regime. And that aspect of it's culture needs changing badly.

abre

man you are insulting malawians,me in particular,wonder what your new comrade Ngwazi think about this,i grew up eating msima,makes me strong,all my life i have travelled in different countries africa and the far east to the west,msima stands out.calling msima nasty and tasteless is p!ssing on every malawian including your parent whether its your mom or dad whoever you take your malawian roots from.its sad because all your life yo did not have it easy like some of us,you went from being a welfare recepient and msima was all you ate,now out of luck and some charity you are in the UK you think msima is tasteless,have you gone bonkers?seriously man get a grip of life.dont just mouth out without thinking.

eetchef · Senior Member

Abres has no competence to make such judgments on the whole posting . Abres has a very low-level creativity , he is what we can call a PARROT , who can mimic what is said by his fellow geezers in Surrey pubs about foreign cultural values. I'm wondering what are the psychological reasons for being so speculative on each and every posting. I do feel that the crucial question, unanswered in the posting , is what his next or last concluding paragraph should say about realities . .
At least here somehow his tablets started to repair his impaired reasoning .Every generation of adult humans of course exhibits a profound, irresistible, biological urge to complain bitterly about the young. Kids -- take your pick -- have no manners, show no discipline, can't think critically, pay no attention to their elders, care only about sex, care only about money, care only about themselves..and cant eat nsima…...
But as I have always maintained that in our own era, there has been a special sort of spin on this traditional rhetoric in which technology and media play the role of demonic catalyst. And this brings us back to an earlier posting about culture and the internet innovation by Malawian and I quote: “Sadly, the internet can be a corrosive agent to the Malawian culture. Many use it to corrupt the minds of others with ideologies that are against the Malawian culture and sets of beliefs. Unfortunately, many Malawians let their minds be corrupted by these ideologies. It is sad, sad, sad.”
dont get confused and start asking me what I want to say here . The reasoning here ladies and gentleman , Abres , loosely, goes something like this: we know that kids today are a lot worse than they've ever been, I mean certainly a lot worse than we were some twenty or thirty years back, so I suspect the cause of this decline must lie in the most visible arenas of change during that time. This in turn produces the usual list of suspects: maybe cable television,, kapena computers, the Internet, video games, backwards baseball caps, and maybe kukhwefula thalauza….
So to Trina the shortes answer to your enquiring post is , well , our parents don’t get the blame.Nobody gets the blame , maybe it’s the time and the hour .

awmygawd · Guru

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PS: nsima ranks a class or two below marmite's on my 'foods I hate list' (bland or unpleasant but tolerable).

Mr Bean · Newbie

Abre

Amwene apa ndiye mwawonjeza. Come on why r u so bitter about malawi. Did something happen to you in malawi or any member of your family? I used to like yo postings koma no no no wapilizano. i think analakwa kukupatsa u man of the year wayamba kuzitengela patali. si udindo oti azikulipilatu ayi, mwina wina wake wakunamiza. Take it easy bro.

rick · Senior Member

kesso/amber or wat eva his name is, is just an attention seeker.

he gets his kicks from tryin to create controversy.the more pple reply to his postings the happier he is.what a life.

my dignosis is that this goat suffers from ASS(attention seeking sydrome). largely brough about due to loneliness, lack of self esteem,bitterness and sexual abuse suffered at an early age.

you need a girl/man/shemale in youre life lad.

YTP · Guru

Trina wrote:

Seeing the behavior of some malawians one can not say, the khalidwe and culture, we were raised with it has been of benefit.
What are we to expect from the children that are now being raised outside Malawi?
.

Every society determines kids' upbringing and beliefs. My young brother cant stand nsima and my niece wont speak any other language apart from english and they are both in Malawi. Choices basi

abre les ojos · Guru

Hang on a minute.

Don't I have the right to call nsima what I think it is without people crying foul at my personal opinion?

Some people cannot take a difference of opinion (and Game I thought you were open-minded).

You like it - good for you. I don't!

Now, I have been a called an attention seeker because I voice an opinion about nsima. You folks make me laugh!

I love using this forum as a microcosm of Malawi society - an inability to take criticism (obviously blow-blacks from Kamuzuism). Lovely to see people on this forum already diagnosing my malady even before meeting me.

YTP · Guru

I cannot say that I share your lamentations.

I personally wouldn't expect children born and bred outside Malawi to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima - which is really just a tasteless, non-nutritious pap.

ABRES, ?Reading your statement above sure as hell provokes anger coz you are wrong. Nsima is nutritious and Mw diet leaves nothing to be ashamed of. There's a variety of balanced meals one can choose from and Mw has healthier food than Uk.

The way you present your opinion rattles.

abre les ojos · Guru

It is not whether it is nutritious or not - it isn't that nutritious - it is basically carbohydrates with little else. The so called ndiwo is usually high-calorie and high fat and oil content.

You cannot say that Malawi has better food than here in the UK that has multitudes of choices from all over the world to chose from. One can have a different meal from a different part of the world everyday of the year and not even finish the entire world.

Back to the topic. I personally do not enjoy nsima - like I don't enjoy Thai or Turkish food. Choice is what it is.

game · Guru

abre les ojos wrote:

Hang on a minute.

Don't I have the right to call nsima what I think it is without people crying foul at my personal opinion?

Some people cannot take a difference of opinion (and Game I thought you were open-minded).

You like it - good for you. I don't!

Now, I have been a called an attention seeker because I voice an opinion about nsima. You folks make me laugh!

I love using this forum as a microcosm of Malawi society - an inability to take criticism (obviously blow-blacks from Kamuzuism). Lovely to see people on this forum already diagnosing my malady even before meeting me.

yes abre, am open minded,you called msima tasteless and those are your opinions which i respect but i have a right to criticise them which is open mindedness in its pure form.there is no excuse to what you said,it was insulting to all malawians who eat msima everyday and cant live without it.in nigeria where you also come from people eat fufu,which is disgusting in its appeal yet no malawian on this forum has ever referred to it as disgusting.i believe in freedom to mouth whatever is on your mind,freedom of speech right?but do you have to offend other people with your freedom?what you said was not criticism,it was downright mockery to malawians,shea mockery.
there are ways of expressing your resentment towards msima that wont offend people who believe in it.its timing abre,i say things that are politically incorrect in 90% of what i say,but i make sure that i dont offend other factions of th society.especially on a public forum like malawiana.

YTP · Guru

You said that Nsima is, among other things non~nutritious! I dont see nuthing wrong with nsima ya chambo chootcha with therere on the side plus having a pure, ripe boloma and papaya afterwards. Thats one simple example. Mw has a healthy variety of meals one can have everyday without suffering from malnutrition! Uk has also lots of food,the majority of which is mingy. We all have choices and i would respect yours instead of likening it to poo.

Britain is one of the unhealthiest nations. Talk about obese!

game · Guru

YTP wrote:
You said that Nsima is, among other things non~nutritious! I dont see nuthing wrong with nsima ya chambo chootcha with therere on the side plus having a pure, ripe boloma and papaya afterwards. Thats one simple example. Mw has a healthy variety of meals one can have everyday without suffering from malnutrition! Uk has also lots of food,the majority of which is mingy. We all have choices and i would respect yours instead of likening it to poo. Britain is one of the unhealthiest nations. Talk about obese!

so what do you think on the khalidwe part?do you think it is right for parents to let their children take their own moral compass?

abre les ojos · Guru

Game you are being unfair.
I said nsima is tasteless pap. I didn't say people were wrong or stupid to eat it. I personally did not insult anyone who eats it as a stable diet.
It is insulting to me personally when people call me names because I voice an opinion that is contrary to theirs.
And YTP I didn't say nsima was poo. Stop making stuff up!
Malawi diet has very poor options. It is basically nsima with different ndiwo. Not exactly a stable diet is it now?
As for obesity. If you do your research into it you'll find out that it is caused by eating too much and exercising less. It is a disease of excess.
If people get offended because someone doesn't like the food they eat then so be it.

YTP · Guru

Nada game, i believe that parents mould their children from day one up until when the kid is old enough to make informed choices. Children never have their own compass; circumstances dictate otherwise.

But hey, i might be wrong!
Society plays a big role even though most kids try to rebel. We are sons of of our fathers. But dont we want to believe otherwise?!

Trina · Newbie

abre les ojos wrote:
I cannot say that I share your lamentations. I personally wouldn't expect children born and bred outside Malawi to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima - which is really just a tasteless, non-nutritious pap. Malawi has a very poor dietary regime. And that aspect of it's culture needs changing badly. As for the "khalidwe" part. Every generation in history looks at the younger generation as having less morals and whines about themselves being better brought up in some "gone-were-the-days" fantasy. Tradition is the illusion of permanence.

I use Nsima as simply an illustration which most Malawians connotate to its culture. I was not insinuating that everyone born and bred in Malawi eat Nsima. I would not expect that. So your comment was really out of context and Insulting. Since when have Carbs been non nutritious. They are recommended in any good diet. When Malawian food is cooked right it is by far very healthy all naturally grown. Maize Its what has sustained most of the world and contiues to do so.(Tacos)

I was not comparing generations or drifting on a fantasy or quoting rhetoric. I just feel that the older people have a responsibility to guide the youth pull from resources such as culture and tradition. It is not okay when children make wrong choices and for us to turn the other way and blame it on the times.

abre les ojos · Guru

But you see Trina there would always be a generation gap "blame game". It is the very nature of existence and is virtually universal to every culture.
You seem to be stating the obvious, albeit doing it with a lame sense that you have discovered something new or profound. You haven't.
If anyone actually feels that my dislike of nsima is insulting to them, I feel for them surely. But I chose to differ.

NYASALAND · Senior Member

i agree with Abres man of the year nonse mukukambazi nyasi. Abres is well educated than most of you . Keep it up mphwanga.

YTP · Guru

Abre wrote and i quote; 'i personally wouldnt expect kids born and bred outside to be subjected to the nastiness that is nsima.' End.

Now what stuff am i making up? I thought poo was nasty as well so i likened the two.
Surely you jest about nsima being the only food without altenatives? There's potatoes, rice, chinangwa, and pasta among others available so what are you talking about?

By the way, my liking or hatred of nsima is immaterial because i was just rectifying your earlier statement.

-- Edited by YTP at 21:35, 2007-01-25

Trina · Newbie

abre les ojos wrote:
But you see Trina there would always be a generation gap "blame game". It is the very nature of existence and is virtually universal to every culture.
You seem to be stating the obvious, albeit doing it with a lame sense that you have discovered something new or profound. You haven't.
If anyone actually feels that my dislike of nsima is insulting to them, I feel for them surely. But I chose to differ.

No my sense was in bringing awarness and if it be lame so be it I too can differ just like you, have an opinion like you, but will not stoop to your levels of insult which is what your statements are, no matter which way you slice it. Ridicule and Insult seem to be your forte and not mine. Whats obvious to you may not be obvious to all and I will not take credit for discovering this issue, which I never claimed to do, but will take credit for it bringing it up for discussion.

Atame · Veteran Member

INTERVIEW WITH ABRE LES OJOS

Reporter----- I heard ur from Malawi?

Abre--------- Yes Iam

Reporter----- what is ur staple food?

Abre--------- Some nastiness called nsima - which is really just a
                         tasteless, non-nutritious pap.

Reporter------- U mean there is no Nutrients in Nsima

Abre------------ Aaah..... I mean it isn't that Nutritious, The so called ndiwo is
                            usually high-calorie and high fat and oil content.

Reporter------------ What ndiwo is this?

Abre----------------   Therere la limanda

Studa · Senior Member

my mere point of veiw is that children raised out of the country should be provided with the opportunity to speak the vernacular language of their parents thus making them bilingual and more versatile than their counterparts, if they dont want to, its their choice! At least you tried! It is hard and costly to learn a form of language especially the ones we have in malawi while you are abroad, but it comes at no cost for a child being raised by people who can utter it. Parents and guardians are sorely responsible for this!

As to what they eat and do not? it is a choice they have to make after sampling all the delicates!!